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June 17

How to change the language

I want to change the text to malayalam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:D486:443:DE58:9B77:2AC0:5615 (talk) 00:18, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi! Are you looking for the Malayalam wikipedia page or are you asking about translating articles there into English? Orville1974 (talk) 00:27, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Hire someone to write about my organisation

Hi, I want to hire some member of wikipidia to write an article for me on wikipidia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Attornist (talk • contribs) 01:01, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@Attornist: That's not something you can use Wikipedia to do, you will need to do so elsewhere. I would also urge you to proceed carefully and not immediately hand over any money. Anyone you hire cannot make any guarantees(such as guaranteeing they will write an article that will not be deleted). They will also need to declare their association with you and that you are paying them per the conflict of interest and paid editing policies.
Also note that you would only merit an article on Wikipedia if you meet the notability criteria for biographies; there are also more specific criteria for certain professions(politicians, athletes, musicians, etc.). This is not social media where everyone can have a page. 331dot (talk) 01:11, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Every politician who has competently completed an election on any level at least once can have an undeletable page, though. Anybody struggling for in-depth independent coverage but legitimately interesting or useful to general audiences might consider winning some small seat. Could resign immediately, if governance isn't appealing. You'd still need sources for your content, but your name would last forever. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:15, June 17, 2019 (UTC)
As the others have indicated, Attornist, that is a bad idea. If Wikipedia has an article about your organisation, it will not be your article (or your organisation's), it will not say what you want it to say, and you will have no control over the content. If you're looking for a way to increase your online presence, Wikipedia is emphatically not the place to do it.
As for hiring: paid editing is not forbidden, but it is set about with restrictions, and many editors (myself included) look on it with suspicion. A Wikipedia article should be written for the benefit of Wikipedia, and absolutely nobody and nothing else. --ColinFine (talk) 09:23, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


I have provided references on Talk page of Dr. Shamsheer Vayalil. Now, editors can look those references (from reliable sources) and can make possible edits. Thanks. ( (talk) 01:18, 17 June 2019 (UTC))

Hi! Thank you for leaving the reference details on the article's talk page. Please follow up with the editors there since there are quite a few who have been involved with helping you who are already following the conversation on that page. Orville1974 (talk) 01:38, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Definition of fascism

Curious why definition of fascism contains " right wing?" Authoritarian, totalitarian governments can be left or right. Please update since locked and cannot edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:31, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi! Please leave a request on the talk page of the article (you can get to it by clicking on the Talk tab at the top of the article), along with a reliable source WP:RS that mentions left wing fascism. Thank you! Orville1974 (talk) 01:40, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
No. This has many been discussed many times and a minority source will not change the consensus. See the red box at top of Talk:Fascism. Of course authoritarian, totalitarian governments can be left wing, but the term fascim indicates right wing. Some people use it as a general slur but Wikipedia gives the political meaning. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:45, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Voluntary Aid Detachment

Please help - I got ref number 7 all wrong. Thanks in advance. (talk) 07:49, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

It appears like Lee Vilenski fixed the ref. Thanks for pointing it out. OkayKenG (talk) 17:06, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Sorry didn't see the other post below. Sorry for the ping. OkayKenG (talk) 17:07, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

How to see your View History

Helllo, I want to see my page history (Pages I viewed in Wikipedia) I don't know how to tdo it Can you show me?

RobloxFanEditor (talk) 07:50, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@RobloxFanEditor: Wikipedia does not have this feature but your browser may store your browsing history. It requires that you used the same browser on the same computer, that the browser has the feature, and that you don't have browser settings to delete the history. It may still be limited how far back the history is stored. What is your browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 08:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not keep a record of the pages that you viewed, but the list of your contributions (the pages you have edited) is here. Dbfirs 08:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Murali Kumar (dubbing artist)

I have small doubt. If we have many celebritities for same named as Karthik for a example We create Karthi (actor), Singer, director etc for their profession give the title. Then under which heading should the dubbing artist or Voice actor/actress. Please clear my doubt User:ScarlettDeepa94 1:35 , 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@ScarlettDeepa94: We only use descriptions like "(dubbing artist)" to distinguish between article subjects with the same name. We only have one article about the name "Murali Kumar" so I have moved Murali Kumar (dubbing artist) to Murali Kumar. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:19, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


Some other dubbing artiste here their name as Priya Anand, Karthikeyan, Adithya how to create the article and under which heading should gives the person, please mentioned it, and what is the perfect label for the persons dubbing artist or voice actor/actress. please clarifying. User:ScarlettDeepa94 08:40, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@ScarlettDeepa94: Please sign your posts with ~~~~. This automatically adds a correct UTC time stamp. "(voice actor)" is the common English term but if "(dubbing artist)" is more common in India then I suppose you can use that for Indian voice actors when disambiguation from other articles is needed. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:02, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Considering we don't have an article for dubbing artist, voice actor should be the disambiguator in my opinion. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 09:08, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Here after im using Voice actor header — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScarlettDeepa94 (talkcontribs) 17 June 2019 09:36 (UTC)

Voluntary Aid Detachment

Please help - I got ref number 7 all wrong. Thanks in advance. (talk) 07:49, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Fixed. I did some general cleanup too. As a note, any time a | is seen within a template (such as {{cite web}}, it starts a new parameter. In this case, it tried to think |charity was a parameter, and that's why it was confused. I changed this to simply Qube, as the rest of the information is irrelevent to the source. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 09:17, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Layout glitch

In Siege of Calais (1596), what exactly causes all the images to slip down to the very bottom of the article? I tried to fix that but I couldn't even find the actual source of error. Many thanks in advance for any assistance!--Hildeoc (talk) 11:45, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Can't see that on a laptop, perhaps you are reading on a phone? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:16, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
@Jimfbleak: Thanks. In fact, I'm using a desktop PC browsing with Firefox Quantum.--Hildeoc (talk) 14:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Any other comments?--Hildeoc (talk)

@Hildeoc: It looks fine for me (Firefox 67, Windows). LittlePuppers (talk) 22:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
@LittlePuppers: You're absolutely right – it looks fine now, for whatever reason … Any ideas what could have been the cause of trouble before?--Hildeoc (talk) 20:33, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@Hildeoc: I have no idea - looking at the old revisions doesn't show any problems for me, and I don't think there have been any major updates to Firefox or MediaWiki in the last few days. LittlePuppers (talk) 21:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Article publication

when my article will be published on wikipedia please do reply— Preceding unsigned comment added by Amrapaliprakash (talkcontribs)

Your draft is "published" in the sense that you have created it; if you mean "published" in the sense that it is formally part of the encyclopedia, you have not submitted it for a review. I will shortly add the appropriate information to allow you to submit it. 331dot (talk) 12:05, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Help editing a Wikipedia company page

Hello Wikipedia editors,

I have left a message on the 'Talk' function of the 'SITAONAIR' company page last month, but have yet to receive a response ([] ) . I appreciate that this may be due to errors in my use of the talk page, so I'm looking for some guidance.

For transparency, I am a PR professional, paid by the company SITAONAIR – so I am obviously prohibited from making changes directly. This account has been set up specifically with the intention to correct inaccuracies and update information on the SITAONAIR page: SITAOnAir.

Any help would be very much appreciated.


Sam.Wilson.Specialist (talk) 14:47, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@Sam.Wilson.Specialist:  Done, except, source needed for last item. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 15:47, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
@Sam.Wilson.Specialist: I'd also like to say thank you. You've followed all of the rules in that regard (other than possibly adding Template:Paid to your user page), I hope you stay around Wikipedia.Naraht (talk) 15:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Help with setting up a dashboard with enrollment link for students

Good morning,

Can someone help me setup a dashboard with enrollment link for my students? Our course starts in Fall and I would like to have this enrollment link. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allison.Silveus (talkcontribs) 15:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@Allison.Silveus: You can get started here. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Removing a page from a hidden category

Sorry to bother you guys/girls, but I need to know how to remove a page from a hidden category. For example, if a page in the category "Wikipedia articles needing copy edit" is copy edited and requires no more corrections, how do you remove it from the category? Bill Williams (talk) 15:11, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@LilBillWilliams: To remove it from the category you just remove the template that puts it into the category, so in this case you would remove the {{copy edit}} template. Help:Maintenance template removal should tell you more. DuncanHill (talk) 15:16, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
The category page often says which templates add the category. Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit does this. Hidden categories are not technically different from other categories but in Wikipedia they are usually added by templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Fair use

Hi all! Have a nice day!, as you may see I am enthralled by Japan-related news, even the dark side of its, and I want to contribute to the article Akihabara massacre with a picture depicting the moment of arrest of Tomohiro Kato. Do any of these two qualify as fair use? Thanks in advance and hope you all the best. Number 1 Number 2. --LLcentury (talk) 15:17, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for asking, LLcentury. Looking at the non-free content criteria, I don't see how they could meet no 8; but if you think they do, you can go ahead and upload them, and see what others think. --ColinFine (talk) 16:36, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

ColinFine, my pleasure Colin, I will go ahead and try, at most I will receive a warning, but which one would you choose? Thanks for your kindness. --LLcentury (talk) 16:41, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambersharon2 (talkcontribs) 15:31, 17 June 2019 15:31 (UTC)

@Ambersharon2: The error was caused by the addition of ref tags with no content. (See WP:REFB for more information). Also, the correct link (which needs double square brackets is Rob Evans (basketball) and the lists go in alphabetical order. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Eagleash (talk) 16:44, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

To pay attention

I have posted a request on Talk page of Shamsheer Vayalil, regarding to add his residence and occupation column in his Wikipedia Infobox. I have also provided links from where these information can be extracted. But an editor is playing with me, he says that I provided incorrect link. When I double checked the link then I found that links are correct and working. So, I request other editors to look in this matter and to add the desired information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

It took you three attempts to get the links right, but another editor has now fulfilled one of your requests and I fulfilled the other. Are you happy now? Dbfirs 06:02, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Kolkata Metro

I want help regarding the article Kolkata Metro. Recently I updated it, and changed the names of some stations etc. and I cited a official website[1] But a guy named User:Soumo Dutt changes it frequently. I also undid them, but now I am fed up. He neither gives any citations. Someone already told not to do like this in his talkpage, but he still does. I already put this in Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention. But he is still doing. I need help on what to do so that he doesn't do this anymore? I am trying to edit and put new stuffs day & night, since the article and all other related articles are outdated, and some people like these are wasting it. Please help
Saha talk 16:31, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Arnabsaha2212. I don't see any discussion on Talk:Kolkata Metro. That would be the first step in resolving a content dispute. --ColinFine (talk) 16:39, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
ColinFine, ok, i am putting this issue in the article talkpage. Saha talk 17:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
ColinFine ya, i have put that on Talk:Kolkata Metro. what next? and i am also unable to undo the unnecessary edits. Saha ( talk ) 17:29, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Arnabsaha2212: Wikipedia works by consensus. Saying "please do not change" is the same as saying "I am right and you are wrong", and is not an effective opening move in achieving consensus. (Understand that I am not agreeing or disagreeing with your position: I know nothing about the Kolkata Metro. I am talking about how we work towards consensus). --ColinFine (talk) 20:59, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


  1. ^ "Road Ahead….. Projects sanctioned".

I want to file an arbitration request about edits to Mark Bourrie

This page is about me. I see the edits as targeted harassment.2607:FEA8:C360:C3:7034:60A4:AE46:9091 (talk) 16:54, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Please discuss your concerns on the talk page. I reviewed the article and removed the sentence about you being a paid editor because the reporting said you testified that the payment was unsolicited, and I'm assuming good faith. And thank you for discussing this rather than trying to edit the article yourself. Other editors apparently spent a good amount of time identifying and blocking multiple accounts that were suspiciously editing the article. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:27, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

The entire article is full of smear and violates your policies regarding biographies of living persons. Edits made in the past two and a hlaf months have removed anything positive and highlighted the negative. Again, I request a link to the arbitration page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:C360:C3:99F7:DB71:6772:B707 (talk) 00:44, 18 June 2019 (UTC) I am not sure why they call this a help page. My simple request for a link to the arbitration page has been ignored and/or deflected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:C360:C3:99F7:DB71:6772:B707 (talk) 13:48, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

  1. You need to recognise that Wikipedia is edited by volunteers all around the world. That means that a particular volunteer may only be able to edit for perhaps an hour in any one of the 24 time zones. TimTempleton replied to you at 22:27 yesterday yet you complained here at 00:44. You then demanded action at 13:00 on the talk page and back here at 13:48.
  2. You have been apparently editing as GoldLilydog, 2607:FEA8:C360:C3:7034:60A4:AE46:9091 and 2607:FEA8:C360:C3:99F7:DB71:6772:B707. How do we know that they are the same person?
  3. How do we know that you are the real Mark Bourrie? This is (in part) why we require independent verification of facts.
  4. Please always sign your edits by adding four tildes: ~~~~.
  5. Arbitration requests are at WP:ARBREQ as you would have found out by entering "arbitration" into Wiki's search box. Please note however that "A request for arbitration is the last step of dispute resolution". Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:41, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Reviving a Wikiproject

Hello, Hope you are all doing well. One of the Wikiprojects which I am quite fond of has fell quite a bit into a state of dormancy I am looking towards dedicating substantial time to restore this Wikiproject to its former glory, along with its members, team, logos, etc. The leader of the Wikiproject has been inactive for 9 years now and unfortunately there's no sign of him coming back. Would there be a way to take over the Wikiproject? Thanks. Regards, DoctorSpeed ✉️ —Preceding undated comment added 18:16, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikiprojects don't have leaders. All collaborators are equal. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 18:46, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
...and as a consequence, there is no "taking over" to be done. List yourself as participant, watchlist the relevant pages, edit articles etc. and voilà - there is an active contributor to the project. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Hell, Michigan

Elijah Daniel recently bought the town of Hell, Michigan and renamed it Gay Hell, but when I changed it my Change was reported for vandalism, can you please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esalzano (talkcontribs) 20:51, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@Esalzano: Hello. Plase discuss the change on the article's talk page. Thank you. — Lauritz Thomsen (talk) 20:54, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Ping @Esalzano: on behalf of LauritzT as adding a ping to an existing message doesn't work: see WP:PING. Eagleash (talk) 22:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  • The article has now been EC protected two months by User:Swarm; two users have been blocked. That should help with the enthusiastic renaming of the town to 'Gay Hell' by new users. I'll leave a ping for User:VoltronUniverse since they have been one of the people adding 'Gay' to the article text. There is a problem with making unsourced changes. A rapper and Youtuber named Elijah Daniel has been saying that he became mayor of Hell for a day and has used his temporary authority to rename the town to 'Gay Hell'. This appears to be a sort of a joke and would need to be handled with due weight, if confirmed by reliable sources. We do have reliable sources confirming that Daniel *made* the statement; the press seems to be treating that as a human interest item. The report has achieved some currency, presumably as a tongue-in-cheek item. If we want to add this information to the actual article on Hell, Michigan we should get it from a source which is doing more than repeating Daniel's own announcement. EdJohnston (talk) 19:05, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Ending conflict of interest

I stated that I had a conflict of interest with a company a few years ago. At the time I was a paid contractor with the company.

However, this conflict ended a couple of years ago when the company reorganized. I am no longer either an employee or contractor, or associated with the company - other than being a fan of what they are doing.

Since this conflict no longer exists, how do I get this removed?


PS: I do still have a conflict with the other company listed on my account as I am still a paid contractor with them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conquestde (talkcontribs) 22:59, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Conquestde: You should not completely remove it (since you did have a conflict at one time, and anyone looking at your past contributions made during that time frame should still be aware of your past paid editing status). Rather, you can change the disclaimer to identify the period in time that you were a paid editor for them. Orville1974 (talk) 01:15, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Anonymous sources

Should I add a source that has anonymous sources? For example if New York Times interviewed an anonymous person would that be reliable and be included in the article.Manabimasu (talk) 23:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Manabimasu: Your source would be the New York Times article itself (you could include in the Wikipedia article, "according to an anonymous source" then whatever they said, then the citation linking it to the New York Times if you wanted to clarify that the source the NYT was reporting from was anonymous). Orville1974 (talk) 01:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
@Manabimasu: Just to clarify a bit: you should use secondary sources (here, the NYT), not primary sources (here, whoever the anonymous source is). What gives credence to the information is not who provided it in the first place, but the fact that the NYT (a newspaper with a fairly good track record for fact-checking) published it (assuming it is an investigative piece, not something from the opinion column). TigraanClick here to contact me 11:34, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

June 18

William Beechey

Plesase remove the ugly numbers that are all over the photos/files in eth "family" section of this page. I have tried and failed. Thanks (talk) 00:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Done. The problem is when a left-aligned image encounters a bulleted or numbered list - it's often pretty ugly. I just moved the image to the right. Schazjmd Talk 00:43, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Claiming inactive account names

Sorry to bother you guys/girls, but is it possible to take control of an account that hasn't been used for over 13 years, and has no edits? For example, I would like to use the name BobRoberts, but the name was taken by an editor who hasn't made any edits for and made their account 13 years ago. Bill Williams (talk) 01:57, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @LilBillWilliams: You're not a bother. I'm glad you asked the question. Since the requested account's home is the English Wikipedia (here), they've been inactive since 2013, and they've had zero contributions: [1], the name change should process should be pretty smooth. Just follow the process here: WP:USURP. The instructions are right above the blue button (basically you'll click the blue button to start the request, enter BobRoberts in place of where you see TARGETNAME, and enter a reason in place of where you see YOUR REASON, then click the publish changes button). You can return to WP:USURP to see the status of the request. Good luck and happy editing! Orville1974 (talk) 04:39, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it. Bill Williams (talk) 11:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi again @LilBillWilliams:, I see you found the right place and got the process started. Good luck and happy editing! Orville1974 (talk) 22:43, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Split Bangkok Article

I felt that the following paragraph (its one footnote removed), from the article on Bangkok, should be split. Could anyone please provide me with suggestions as to where? I think the sentence starting with "[f]ollowing" would be best. (I split it there at first, then undid the edit and decided to get feedback here first - twice, because of an accidental edit. Sorry about that, and this long-winded explanation.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 03:59, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Thylacine24: - (sorry to edit directly, think it looked simpler) - you are definitely right it should be split at that point. But it could just as well be split into 3 paragraphs, and like in many histories, WW2 makes a good breakpoint.
"Bangkok's economy gradually expanded through international trade, first with China, then with Western merchants returning in the early to-mid 19th century. As the capital, Bangkok was the centre of Siam's modernization as it faced pressure from Western powers in the late-19th century. The reigns of Kings Mongkut (Rama IV, 1851–68) and Chulalongkorn (Rama V, 1868–1910) saw the introduction of the steam engine, printing press, rail transport and utilities infrastructure in the city, as well as formal education and healthcare. Bangkok became the centre stage for power struggles between the military and political elite as the country abolished absolute monarchy in 1932.
Allied with Japan in World War II, it was subjected to Allied bombing, but rapidly grew in the post-war period as a result of US aid and government-sponsored investment. Bangkok's role as a US military R&R destination boosted its tourism industry as well as firmly establishing it as a sex tourism destination. Disproportionate urban development led to increasing income inequalities and migration from rural areas into Bangkok; its population surged from 1.8 million to 3 million in the 1960s.
Following the US withdrawal from Vietnam in 1973, Japanese businesses took over as leaders in investment, and the expansion of export-oriented manufacturing led to growth of the financial market in Bangkok. Rapid growth of the city continued through the 1980s and early 1990s, until it was stalled by the 1997 Asian financial crisis. By then, many public and social issues had emerged, among them the strain on infrastructure reflected in the city's notorious traffic jams. Bangkok's role as the nation's political stage continues to be seen in strings of popular protests, from the student uprisings in 1973 and 1976, anti-military demonstrations in 1992, and successive anti-government demonstrations by opposing groups from 2008 on."

Nosebagbear (talk) 13:45, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, no worries for editing directly.--Thylacine24 (talk) 17:15, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Template error


I added the number of seats held to this article: Long Live Tunisia in the infobox and I get this error:

<div style="background-color: #A91101; width: Expression error: Unexpected < operator%; height: 100%;">

How can I fix it? Thanks! David O. Johnson (talk) 04:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Fixed @David O. Johnson: Hi! I was looking at Template:Infobox Tunisian political party that's used on that page and it looks like for the seat parameter it says "The current number of seats the party holds in the Assembly of Representatives. Write the number only." So for this particular template we don't need to use the Composition bar template. OkayKenG (talk) 05:34, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
*already made the change OkayKenG (talk) 05:38, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! David O. Johnson (talk) 05:39, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

To restore information

Respected editors, one major problem has arrived. In Dr. Shamsheer Vayalil wikipedia a major part of information has been removed by an editor from Early life paragraph. Please! restore those information. Thanks. ( (talk) 06:08, 18 June 2019 (UTC))

I have left you a message on my talk page as a reply to your message that you sent earlier today. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 06:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Content was removed with this edit by Orville1974 as it was both minor and unsourced. Eagleash (talk) 07:40, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
I've responded on my talk page (this was cross-posted there too). Orville1974 (talk) 11:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted twice at my TP also. Eagleash (talk) 12:30, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Translating wikipedia

I am trying to translate articles from english pages to the malayalam page. How can I identify the articles that need translation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Byjuvtvm (talkcontribs) 07:52, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Byjuvtvm: there was about 58,000 pages on the Malayalam Wikipedia as of August 2018 compared to nearly 6 million on the English Wikipedia. This means that the vast majority of articles you find haven’t been translated, but you can check by searching the Malayam Wikipedia before translating. Willbb234 (talk) 09:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
@Byjuvtvm:You can take a look at content translation on Malayam Wikipedia. There is a suggestion tab that recommends some artcles for translation. --94rain Talk 09:19, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Verified Editors Issue


Please allow me to present myself. I am the Digital Director working in a reputable advertising agency in Lebanon. We have created a Wikipedia account to one of our clients AM Bank and reached the publication phase. Since we are still not verified editors, we couldn't publish the content online, although all is ready and approved by the client.

Can you please advise, on how we can proceed? The client is following-up continuously and we need to get back to them on this matter.

Looking forward to hearing from you.


Reva Berbari — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:14, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Before wasting any more of your, or your client's, time you need to read WP:PAID, WP:COI and WP:NOTE. Then ask yourself if your client is notable (in Wiki's terms) and are there third party references for all facts. Finally, it doesn't matter a jot whether the article has been approved by your client, once published it may be edited by anyone. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 11:19, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
One other thing: (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Martin of Sheffield (talk) 11:21, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi! After following Martin of Sheffield's advice regarding the steps you'll need to take regarding disclosing your paid contributor status and conflict of interest, if this is the same bank as AmBank, there is already an article published on Wikipedia. The links provided above will guide you on how to request changes (with reliable third-party sources WP:RS) on the talk page of the article: Talk:AmBank. Orville1974
Nevermind, that appears to be a different bank group based in Malaysia. (talk) 11:28, 18 June 2019 (UTC). Updated. Orville1974 (talk) 11:32, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Note: apparently the article in question is Draft:AM Bank SAL. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 14:48, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
@El cid, el campeador: Thanks for the link. Reva Berbari, as it stands the article has no chance of making it to main space. There are no independent reference other than the government list of banks, the bank's own web and facebook pages are not independent. It also reads like a promotional page, not a neutral assessment of the bank. WP is not social media, it summarises what third parties have said about the subject of the page. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:57, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Eldorado poem by Edgar Allen Poe

Just wanted you to know (I don't know how to add this to the comment section of the poem) that the last part of the poem the paragraph "Over the mountain(s) of the Moon" was featured in an Airwolf episode Season 3, "Airwolf 2" as the location for Kaitlyn (Delrado's Canyon), Hawke and ArchAngel discover the note left behind after she was taken from Santini Air. Hawke begins with "Over the mountain of the moon, down in the valley of the shadow", and ArchAngel finishes "Ride, boldly ride,’ The shade replied,‘If you seek for Eldorado!" Hawke then says "Delrado's canyon". Hawke then contacts Dominic in the Airwolf's lair, tells him they've taken Kate and asks him if he knows where the canyon is, Dominic says "sure" and Hawke tells him " me there and bring the lady" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brubik5575 (talk • contribs) 14:08, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 5.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Willbb234 (talk) 15:17, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
@Willbb234: I think it's unlikely that Brubik5575 thinks we are affiliated with Edgar Allan Poe, who died in 1849. I think it's much more likely that they are proposing an addition to the article Eldorado (poem).
@Brubik5575: Wikipedia articles don't have comment sections, but this is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, and you are encouraged to be bold and add the material yourself. You should know, however, that information added to Wikipedia articles is required to be cited to a reliable source. You may also wish to read our guidelines on Citing sources and Identifying reliable sources. I think it's unlikely that such a source could be found to support the material you're proposing, though I'd be happy to be proven wrong. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:53, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
@Arms & Hearts: I was using the generic template {{Astray}} for confusing questions. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 18:03, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes, Willbb234, we can see that. And the template you chose was not appropriate to the OP's question. Maproom (talk) 06:31, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Inability to edit one specific article - how comes? How to return to editing?

By missunderstanding my GIF was deleted from article "Headphones". Now the GIF is restored in Commons (property rights for the image confirmed), but I cannot restore it in the article because this particular article has no "Edit source" tag for me - instead I see "View source". For other articles the editing option is still available. What needs to be done to return to editing of the article and restoring the information deleted by mistake? Thank you in advance for explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WearablesLover (talk • contribs) 14:15, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

The article has been semi-protected, as can be seen from the padlock in the top right hand corner of the article. This prevents IP addresses and non-confirmed accounts from editing and making changes to it. Alternatively, you could post an edit request on the Talk:Headphones talk page which has not been protected. Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:33, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Edit requests and {{Edit semi-protected}} for details. - FlightTime (open channel) 14:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Boaty McBoatface - references within notes

The naming section of Boaty McBoatface contains the sentence "These incidents suggest there is still a clear deficit in understanding how to engage crowds and avoid failures and demonstrate the backlash from NERC’s neglecting the crowd’s choice, which resulted in a sophisticated reaction in other campaigns" - which is backed up by a reference note. However, the reference note itself contains references. Is this an acceptable way of doing things? It seems a bit clunky to me - that a reader would have to follow a ref to find a sentence which is backed up itself by refs? Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Notes add information, that information needs to be cited and so it is normal to use references within notes. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:22, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
But having "Notes" and "Citations" as subsections of a section called "References" is questionable. Maproom (talk) 06:35, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Incorrect detail about Antoni Gaudí

The page for Hotel Attraction – almost certainly incorrectly – states that Gaudí was a communist. I brought this up on the talk page of that article last April, which no one has replied to yet:

That doesn't seem right, what with Gaudí's devout Catholic beliefs, and the main Wikipedia page makes no reference to Gaudí being a Communist. I know the link in the footnote says he was, but it seems to be one of only a few sources that make mention of Gaudí as a communist, all of which concern the Hotel Attraction. This leads me to believe that what I think is the original source for this, a page from the blacklisted website Untapped Cities, fabricated it, intentionally or unintentionally.

Could anyone please help me on this? Sorry that I haven't been using block quotes on my other quotes here. (Edit: Also sorry to keep editing the title of this post, among other things; I have OCD.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 17:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done I'm no expert on the subject, but I don't see this corroborated anywhere but one or two generic website of dubious reliability. GMGtalk 18:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks.--Thylacine24 (talk) 19:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Mind you, Gaudí did seem to have a humble leisure life of dressing like a beggar (which, notably, indirectly led to his death) and was involved in the design of the College of the Teresians, a building for a Carmelite community that took a vow of poverty, so it's possible that the intention of the project, to serve upper-class hotel patrons, could have offended him, but this is all guesswork on my part.--Thylacine24 (talk) 20:05, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

About talkpage

Is it possible to ping or notify the editors of an article for a discussion in talkpage? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnabsaha2212 (talkcontribs) 19:05, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Arnabsaha2212: Yes. You can do {{ReplyTo|USER}} replacing USER with the editor's username. RudolfRed (talk) 19:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
forgot to mention: see {{ReplyTo}} for more info on this. RudolfRed (talk) 19:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
One may also prefer {{u}} or even {{bcc}} over the "@username:" formatting. Eman235/talk 19:52, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
A requirement that is often overlooked, is that you must add the ping and your signature in the same edit, or it will not work - Arjayay (talk) 09:29, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Help tying up EnWiki, Wikisource, and Wikidata

We have an article C. H. Bovill. That author is on Wikisource as Charles Harry Bovill, and on Wikidata as both Charles Harry Bovill and C. H. Bovill. These articles do not link up to each other properly. How do I sort this out? Thanks, DuncanHill (talk) 19:11, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

One of the entries in Wikidata should be deleted. Ruslik_Zero 20:03, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
That would leave broken links between projects. DuncanHill (talk) 20:09, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
wikidata:Help:Merge will probably help. Eman235/talk 20:19, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Brilliant, thank you Eman235. It appears I have now successfully merged them and the different project pages link to each other. DuncanHill (talk) 20:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Special:Nearby for arbitrary locations?

Special:Nearby usefully gives a list of nearby articles sorted by distance from my current location. But I would like a tool that allows me to enter a latitude and longitude and get a list of articles close to that location. This was apparently requested several years ago (see phabricator:T51413), but I can't figure out if it was implemented or how to use it. See also Wikipedia:Nearby. Any help would be appreciated. —Granger (talk · contribs) 22:53, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mx. Granger: If you download the free Wikipedia app on a mobile device, there is a map which allows you to locate anywhere in the world and search for articles located in that area. I did a search on the app store by typing ‘Wikipedia’ and it is the first result. I hope that helps, Willbb234 (talk) 06:12, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Adding to Willbb234's comment, Under Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates in one of the sections here, it gives a link to which is like an online version of the same feature. OkayKenG (talk) 06:29, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. I was hoping for a list format, but that is somewhat helpful. In the meantime I've figured out that the Firefox extension Location Guard allows me to use a fake location, which is inconvenient but gives me the desired functionality. —Granger (talk · contribs) 11:35, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

June 19

Userbox Help?

Is there a specific sector of Wikipedia where I can ask help relating to userboxes? (I’m specifically meaning if a Userbox I’m looking for exists) James-the-Charizard (talk) 02:14, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

This should help Wikipedia:Userboxes#Users who make userboxes upon request - FlightTime (open channel) 02:21, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
@FlightTime: Thanks! I was gonna see if I could find a Userbox that allows one to show their discord name in it. James-the-Charizard (talk) 02:23, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
@James-the-Charizard: In that case, check out Template:User Discord. OkayKenG (talk) 05:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
{{User Discord|account = yourAccount}} OkayKenG (talk) 06:04, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Titles on my user pages and talk pages

I have formatted the title on my user page by italicizing it with white text and black background. I would like to do the same thing on my user talk page. Also, I would like to change the font in the title to be Arial, not the User: part of it. How do I do those things? Interstellarity T 🌟 10:54, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

(not an answer) before you suggest it, OP already copied the userpage code {{DISPLAYTITLE:<span style="color:Black">User:</span><font style="background:black"><span style="color:white"><b><i>Interstellarity</b></i></span></font>}} to their user talk page. TigraanClick here to contact me 11:28, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
It would have worked if he had said "User talk:", rather than "User:". --David Biddulph (talk) 12:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
I think this is all that needed changing. I have made the changes. Feel free to revert if wrong. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 12:04, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
@Tigraan, David Biddulph, and Lee Vilenski: I would also like to change the font in both titles to Arial. How do I do that? Interstellarity T 🌟 12:13, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
@Interstellarity: - the code is "font-family:Arial" I believe. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 13:58, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
@Lee Vilenski: I only want the Interstellarity part to be Arial, not the User: and User talk:. Interstellarity T 🌟 14:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
No worries, I'll replace. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 14:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
@Lee Vilenski: Thank you :-). You're the best! Interstellarity T 🌟 14:03, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Need help with move file error

Can someone please help with this error message File:Move file error message.png. I was trying to process the move request from here Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming and got that error message, I have no idea what it means or how or if it can be resolved. Please ping me Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 15:12, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

@NeoBatfreak: Thank you, I was seeking help here and totally forgot to revert that edit. - FlightTime (open channel) 02:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Updating primary infobox image


I'm an official representative for No Depression and would like to update the image in the infobox on our Page to reflect our current journal look and feel. My desire is to simply replace this very outdated journal cover with our latest journal cover, which has drastically changed.

How do I do that? I am authorized to use the image I have/want to update with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamkirr (talkcontribs) 15:42, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

@Adamkirr: You need to bring this up on the article talk page Talk:No Depression (magazine). You can use {{Request edit}}. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Adamkirr. As the messages on your user talk page tell you, you should declare your conflict of interest in editing that article; and if your position as an official representative is in any way compensated, you must declare yourself as a paid editor. Please understand that the article belongs to Wikipedia and not to your client: anybody in the world may edit it in accordance with Wikipedia's policies; but you are discouraged from doing so directly.
As for the image: authorisation is irrelevant. Apart from the (unlikely) case that the copyright owner chooses to release the image publicly under a licence which will allow anybody in the world to reuse it for any purpose, it can only be used in English Wikipedia under the non-free content criteria. If in the judgment of uninvolved editors a particular image you want to propose can be used in a way that meets all these criteria, then it can be used (and if there is already an image there, this is likely to be straightforward). Please make the request as FlightTime suggests, giving a link to the image to be used. --ColinFine (talk) 16:08, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Updating Logo on Company Page

Hi there,

We updated our logo this year, and I can't figure out how to get the new logo on the profile box of our company page (ContactEngine). Please can you let me know how I can get it updated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ContactEngine (talkcontribs) 16:04, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, ContactEngine: please read the replies to the question just above: even though that was about a magazine cover, they apply pretty well exactly to your case. You will also need to register an account which is personal to you, and does not imply that you are editing for a company. --ColinFine (talk) 16:11, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
ContactEngine  Done TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 17:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Update a picture on the web page

Hi I am the editor in chief of the American Journal of Public Health. The journal wiki page has a picture of a cover dating from 2012. We have entirely redesigned the cover. I am trying to substitute the 2012 cover with the latest one (July 2019) but the page does not let me do the change and accept the new picture. What shall I do? Thanks you for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amorabia (talk • contribs) 17:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

@Amorabia:  Done I just replaced the cover. I did notice in the photo credits for the current issue that Getty Images is listed as the owner of the cover photo, which I included in the attribution information. [[2]] I know that Getty and their image copyright crackdowns are a sore spot with Wikipedia - so if that's not kosher and considered fair use, someone will revert me. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 17:40, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Two-factor authentication

Hello everyone, What is Two-factor authentication (The link)? Who can give me some information about it? Thanks! ⇒ AramTalk 18:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

@ئارام بکر: The help page is Help:Two-factor authentication. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:39, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
John of Reading Face-smile.svg Thank youAramTalk 18:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Sources with social media snippets in them Comment

I come across a lot of reliable sources containing either screenshots, or an inserted social media scroll on their page, most often Twitter or Facebook. I was wandering whether information could be taken from these social media 'snippets' and used in a Wikipedia article. For example, this BBC news article has a screenshot of a tweet by Piers Morgan, they have repeated the words of the tweet, so I presume that is fine to use in a Wikipedia article, but what about the other information on the screenshot, such as it was posted on 6 June. (For theoretical reasons, imagine that this is the ONLY source writing on this, so I can't just go and cite the information from another source). A better example of this is here where it isn't a screenshot but an actual inserted Twitter discussion. Any help is appreciated, Willbb234 (talk) 19:51, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

In my view, it is a reliable source confirming that the tweet was made, or specifically that Piers Morgan said 'x.' It is kind of like the American rules of evidence re hearsay - the statement is evidence that the statement was made, but it cannot be used to prove the truth of the matter asserted. Does that make sense? --‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 20:06, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
@El cid, el campeador: I'm sorry, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. What I'm getting at is that the source can confirm the 'tweet' was made but you cannot use the content of the 'tweet' in an article. Am I correct? Willbb234 (talk) 20:19, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
FWIW Template:Cite tweet exists for situations where Twitter is used as a source. The wording of the tweet goes in the 'title' parameter. Eagleash (talk) 02:13, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Armstrong Teasdale

I am requesting an edit to Armstrong Teasdale's Wikipedia Page ([]).

Armstrong Teasdale is no longer a member of the China Alliance, which has disbanded. We also no longer have an office in Shanghai. Please remove the following section on the noted page.

Armstrong Teasdale established a presence in China in 1994 and was awarded a license to open a foreign law office in Shanghai in 2000 by the PRC Ministry of Justice. Armstrong Teasdale is also a member of the China Alliance, an arrangement with three leading independent law firms with practices in China's business and regulatory centers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:45, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi! Please reword your request and put it on the article talk page, here: Talk:Armstrong Teasdale. Rather than remove a section, we would most likely put the end date of the alliance. Are you able to provide any independent, third-party sources WP:RS for this change? (I was not able to find any in a quick search.) Thank you. Orville1974 (talk) 02:03, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I copied the request to the talkpage Talk:Armstrong Teasdale, and as Orville1974 says, you need to provide reliable sources to back up the claim. Please do so at the talkpage not here. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:57, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding references

--Kangb (talk) 22:04, 19 June 2019 (UTC) I'm trying to add two references to the Old Northern Inn site, but get a mess that there is no content there. The two are: ^ Leonard Paul Reminisces, private transcript, copyright 2002 by Charlotte Jones ^ Pioneer Voices of Priest Lake, edited by Kris Runberg Smith, Keokee Books, copyright 2007 by Priest Lake Museum

What do I need to do to add these? thanks

See Wikipedia:Citing sources. Per WP:Verifiability all sources must be published. The second source appears to be published, and the citation you gave may be enough for reader to find it. But "private transcript" is not a phrase normally used when citing sources; I have no idea what it means. Also, there is not enough information for a reader to locate your first source. Jc3s5h (talk) 22:11, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

June 20

unified login temporarily disabled?

I may have resolved my issue by changing my password, but I've never had this problem in over 8 years (or longer). I'm always logged in to the English wikipedia (up to the 365 days), but today the unified login to wikimedia commons no longer worked for me. This used to work. [3] shows I have 132 attached accounts, including commons and meta. I am using the latest Firefox for Windows 8. I tried logging in to commons on Chrome using my password that I've never changed but it reports "Incorrect username or password entered. Please try again." Again, I'm curious why I had to change my password to resolve this issue. -84user (talk) 02:51, 20 June 2019 (UTC) EDIT to raise the prior issue that led me to discover the unified login failing, and that is the Mark as Read choice in my Notifications (View Notices on top line to right of View Alerts) has no effect: clicking mark as read made the blue dot empty, but the notice was still there and a refresh page returned the status to unread. Is there a more direct way to get Mark as Read, or maybe ,mark all notices as read, to work? (only workaround I found was an awkward visitng of the actual source of the notice and refreshing the page, in my case was on wikidata). Somehow the notice system is not syncing? -84user (talk) 03:08, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

All syncing systems (including password/email updates and user renaming) seem to be slow at the moment, it can take a couple of hours. Jannik Schwaß (talk) 04:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..." add to Kosovo, Bangladesh, Turkey, Pakistan, Croatia ....all the way back to 7th century Arabia please.

It is not for us to interpret the words of the prophet Mohammad....simply to carry them out or die immediately. More like Satan inspires him. Not God who created Man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

If you are asking for a quotation to be added to the articles about five or more nations, then no. If you want some other help, please ask for it more clearly. -- Hoary (talk) 05:25, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I would assume the asker considers this relevant contextual information for pages about Muslim-majority countries. We shall make that addition as soon as we are done with adding Exodus 22:20 (or any other such example) to Christian-majority countries (i.e., never). TigraanClick here to contact me 15:20, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Football club kit patters

I am currently updating Dumbarton FC seasons pages including the addition of historical kits worn by the players during that season.

I have source material for the styles ( but other than 'trial and error' am unaware of any guide on the coding required for displaying the kits on the relevant page.

For example the 1876-77 season shows the following code:

|pattern_la1= |pattern_b1 = |pattern_ra1= |pattern_sh1=_navy_sides |pattern_so1= |leftarm1 =1d1f4d |body1 =1d1f4d |rightarm1=1d1f4d |shorts1 =ffffff |socks1 =ff0000

Is there a reference point I can go to for future changes? Aitkegs (talk)

Hi @Aitkegs: Is this what you're looking for? Template:Football kit/pattern list. Orville1974 (talk) 08:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@Orville1974: Perfect - many thanks Aitkegs (talk)
Hello, Aitkegs. I'm not convinced that is regarded as a reliable source. See the discussion at WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 69#Manchester United F.C. Kit Sources. --ColinFine (talk) 17:42, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@ColinFine: Noted. However I do not rely on a single source. The Historical Kits site was just a good example of what I was trying to investigate i.e. kit patterns. Aitkegs (talk)

Contacting Wikipedia editors for a specific discipline

Hi - I work in a University and we want to set up a Wikipedia Edit event. We'd like to contact the editorial team for the discipline we are looking to edit to get some advice. How do we do this? Thanks, Andy (talk) 10:42, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey anon. It's not required, but a good first step would be registering an account and/or enabling email, which will make it a great deal easier for others to communicate with you over time. Other than that, if you could give us more information about what university you are working with, or what field you are interested in, we can probably be more helpful. There are preexisting groups on some campuses already, with some programs partnering with the Wiki Educational Foundation to incorporate editing Wikipedia into their curriculum. We also have a range of WikiProjects that are organized geographically and by subject area. GMGtalk 10:55, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Uploading the logo of a company


I want to upload a logo of a company. could you upload it for me?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1994ams (talkcontribs) 11:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

@1994ams: I can say that you need to read the posts on your user talk page(User talk:1994ams) about conflict of interest and your username. 331dot (talk) 11:30, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Individual Reverts my Good Faith Edits

I don't know what this individual has against me and my expertise on "his" particular subject. I don't want an edit war, but I don't know what to do about it. He just says "you are wrong" without describing the specifics. He even deletes my additions to citations. What can I do about this?

Softtest123 (talk) 12:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Can you be a bit more specific? Your contribution history is very sporadic; otherwise you are bound to receive generic "Take it to their Talk Page and work it out" responses. Maineartists (talk) 12:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Sure. I like to work on Wikipedia when I'm not busy, or as it applies to the work I am doing. Right now I am working on Floating-point arithmetic. The latest history there shows my revert and my explanation. I think he doesn't read my references, so I think it is something personal. I can give you point of interest on this, though I am not really sure why he reverts my stuff except that he reverts a lot of stuff on Floating-point arithmetic. I think he is claiming ownership or something.
And isn't it okay to have multiple references for a factoid? There is often minor differences in perspectives of various citation authors. There are multiple experts in any field and one should study them all to be knowledgeable.
Softtest123 (talk) 14:23, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Just to let others know, the user in question (User:Vincent Lefèvre) seems to be some 'expert' on the subject disputed. He even has his own website about him which can be found via a link on the user's page. Just pointing this out so that others know how to approach. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 15:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@Softtest123: It looks like it's a disagreement on "whos paper to use", why don't you open a discussion on the talk page and discuss why you want to change the reference from the existing one to your prefered reference. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I never intend to replace a reference. Is there a Wikipedia rule against multiple citations for a single factoid? I have no doubt that Professor Lefèvre is an expert on applications of floating point arithmetic. I am an expert on implementation of floating point in hardware. I, too, have a home page, but it is the home page of my floating point company and I think it is against Wikipedia rules to cite one's own company. Inarguably I have few publications on this topic except one: US patent 9817662B2, Alan A. Jorgensen, "Apparatus for Calculating and Retaining a Bound on Error During Floating Point Operations and Methods Thereof", issued 2017-11-17 . I think it likely that this will be an important work because it solves the problem of floating point error that has existed for over 75 years, nearly my whole lifetime. (Floating point error cannot be eradicated, but it can be detected, which it is not in the current floating point standard.) It is natural that there will be controversy, but I think that this controversy should not be reflected in the manner that Wikipedia articles are edited; the controversy should just be defined. I have, as yet, to see a cogent argument countering my statements.
A paper has been submitted for publication and I have been promised an accept/decline response this week.
I am seeking guidance. I simply wish to post substantiated information on Wikipedia without it being deleted.
Softtest123 (talk) 16:57, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@Softtest123: No there is no such rule about multiple references, to an extent, but in this instance you are NOT adding a reference, you are replacing the existing one, like I mentioned above. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:58, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
There's a discussion on the talk page now. My engineering calculus training has left me years ago, so I'm not going to be much help, but there's no reason you can't discuss this there, and come to a resolution, if you are intelligent about it. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:02, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@FlightTime: That particular edit was a reversion because my edit had been replaced and I could see no reason to retype the whole thing. I have no problem with the Goldberg-91 reference. It could have been added, but he replaced my reference which, as I have noted, is the earliest reference to floating point error that I have ever found. I think it is important to know how long floating point error has been known and not resolved.
Softtest123 (talk) 19:15, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm taking this issue back to the talk page and replacing the deleted section as stated there with my reasons.
Softtest123 (talk) 19:23, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, good luck with that. Please do us all a favor and review WP:INDENT. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:27, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
A reference should be helpful to the reader. The patent in question really is not (but this is not the purpose of patents). This is why I replaced this reference by the paper from Goldberg ("What Every Computer Scientist Should Know About Floating-Point Arithmetic"), which is an often cited reference by the community. Softtest123 reverted my change, saying "This patent is the earliest know reference to floating point error [...]". But the goal of a reference is not to be the first one. Moreover, I would be very surprised that the notion of cancellation were not known before (the patent is from 1962). Thus I think that the reference should be changed back to Goldberg's paper. Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 19:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
It would seem that when two editors use the term: "I" with little communication as to "why", it most definitely ends with not only confusion but lines being drawn and personalities shown rather than policies. It's always best to simply take it to the Talk Page and gain consensus. After all, WP is a community. Best to you both. Maineartists (talk) 20:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Logo Loading

Hello! Please tell me what I do wrong when loading the company logo - they constantly write to me that the copyright of the image is violated, although the owner of this site has allowed me to use its logo, which I upload. Another person does the same thing and they never write anything about it to him. For example, his download is [] and the same is mine [] - what's the difference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webseon (talkcontribs) 14:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

  • @Webseon: We cannot just take your word that the owner of this site has allowed me to use its logo, and furthermore we need a much more precise release of copyright ("yeah, you can upload it to Wikipedia" is insufficient). Reading the page Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials should dispel any misunderstandings, and gives the procedure to correctly upload such logos.
As for your example, first of all, plenty of stuff on Wikipedia is wrong but it is not a reason to add similar wrong things, and secondly, File:Spinet_logo.png has been tagged for speedy deletion as a copyright violation (which will likely happen soon). TigraanClick here to contact me 15:11, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
But the good news, Webseon, is that Logos are often used in Wikipeda articles without requiring permission, as they can often be used in a way which meets all the criteria in the non-free content criteria. You have to show when uploading how they meet these criteria. See WP:LOGOS for more information. --ColinFine (talk) 17:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
User blocked for 48 hours for disruptive editing. See User talk:Webseon. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 17:54, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

birth certificate citation

how should public records such as birth certificates be cited? cite book?, Mkoronowski (talk) 17:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mkoronowski: This is a new one for me. I'm unsure whether you can post a birth certificate, for various reasons. I'd first be concerned about violations of privacy. Even public State records ask that you provide a reason for your search. Then, unless the certificate is posted online on a reliable web site, of which none exist that I'm aware of, referencing one in your possession would likely be considered WP:OR. If you were able to find a good reliable web site showing a birth certificate, such as for a deceased celebrity who had some controversy about their birth, you could simply use the Template:Cite web template. Other helpers may have more insight into this. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:15, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure what jurisdiction you live in(and I don't need to know, don't share if you don't wish to), but usually records like birth certificates are not accessible to the general public, at least for many years or even decades. If it's not accessible to the general public, it can't be used as a source. Even if it's accessible, I would attempt to find other sources first. 331dot (talk) 18:51, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Not only would the birth certificate have to be available to the public, but if the person is still alive, you can't use it (WP:BLPPRIMARY). Jc3s5h (talk) 18:59, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Publishing of Burdwan Institute of Pharmacy Wiki Page.

Dear Wikipedia ,

The Shishu Niketan(Society),Bhatchala,P.O. Sripally,Burdwan-713103,W.B. Regd. under WB Act XXVI of 1961, No S/37776 of 1982-83 proposes to establish a pharmacy college in the name and style of Burdwan Institute of Pharmacy with the course Diploma in Pharmacy(D.Pharma) from the academic session 2019-20. For this purpose to the society has taken a venture to launch this job oriented course. The society meant for educational purpose and serving the society for more than 45 years.

Kindly publish our article . I am also attaching the website - []

Thanking You ,

Warm Regards ,

Secretary Burdwan Institute of Pharmacy — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:07, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

You're better off starting here and being mindful of any conflict of interest Wikipedia:Articles for creation. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:17, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Secretary. You need to start by determining which reliable publications, wholly unconnected with the Institute of Pharmacy, have already published significant material about the Institute. If (as I suspect) there are none yet, then it is TOOSOON. If there are such sources then an article can be written about it, based almost entirely on what those sources say: Wikipedia has no interest in what the Institute (or any other subject) wishes to say about itself. Wikipedia is not for promotion (or, in other words, telling the world about something). It is only interest in subjects that the world has already taken note of. --ColinFine (talk) 19:14, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref too many keys

Leon E Rosenberg List of memberships in Infobox scientist has been red flagged because it has too many keys. How can I get rid of the red flags in the inbox?

Leon E Rosenberg173.61.129.43 (talk) 18:07, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done Leon E. Rosenberg appears to have been fixed by editor FlightTime. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes, sorry running late to post reply here. There were many markup errors in the newly added content. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

can't save edits in my sandbox page

I'm editing this page: []

Tried to save my edits and got HTTP error 404.

What's going one? I've been editing this page for days. BrucePL (talk) 18:41, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @BrucePL: Try refreshing your cache: WP:BYPASS. That usually clears it up. Orville1974 (talk) 18:48, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Head shot image

My boss Laura Eason would like to add her headshot to her Wiki page, Laura Eason. I've tried to upload the headshot from my computer, but my permission is denied. How can I add this photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liz.efrankel (talkcontribs) 19:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

@Liz.efrankel: I would first inform you that if you are here at the direction of your boss, you are required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use to review and comply with the paid editing policy; you should also review the conflict of interest policy. Please also note that the article is an article about your boss. not "her Wiki page". If any message came up when you attempted to upload the photo, please share it, but you need to actually have the rights to the photo in order to be able to upload it, and the photo has to have a license compatible with Wikipedia's(the photo needs to be able to be reproduced with attribution for any purpose). Please read the image uploading guidelines and donating copyrighted materials for more information. 331dot (talk) 19:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Should the categories for "sub-Roman Britain" include the late 4th century?

Roman rule in Britain began to collapse in 383 (according to this website's own article), but did not fully end until about 410. Should the categories of this and associated pages include the 4th century, then? Or should it just be ignored, since Roman rule didn't extend (much) into Scotland and thus never all of Britain anyway? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thylacine24 (talkcontribs) 22:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)