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May 29

Ref Desk Science Table of Contents is hidden

At Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science, the table of contents is somehow inside the collapsed section. How to get it to appear above that section? RudolfRed (talk) 00:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Fixed by adding __TOC__ where the table of contents should be. Brianjd (talk) 00:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Brianjd: Thanks! RudolfRed (talk) 00:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Article Posted

How long does it take for my article to be confirm and posted?q — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuck901 (talk • contribs) 03:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • @Tuck901: Article drafts in your User-space, in this case at User:Tuck901/sandbox, are not reviewed for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Your User-space is not 'monitored'. There are a couple of paths forward for the article you've composed. One is to migrate it into article space (I'm not sure of the formal process for this, but as an Admin, I can do this); however, I guarantee that the article in it's current form will be tagged for deletion quickly. The primary reason for deletion? I'm thinking that you are the "Tuck" who is the subject of the article. It is NOT acceptable for people to write articles about themselves for inclusion in the encyclopedia. What are the ways that people can get articles about themselves into Wikipedia? That is a good question, which I've not considered before. Personally, I think the best route is via Wikipedia:Requested articles. It can be years to never for an article to be created from the lists associated with this article, but if you add your bio as a requested article, provide a brief statement of the article content, add reliable sources to support the article and include a link to your draft in your user space, it will be considered for inclusion in the fullness of time. One thing to remember about wikipedia is that "there is no rush" - this is an encyclopedia, not a breaking news site. If reliable sources emerge over the years (yes, years), you can add those to the requested articles entry as they emerge. There are many many many people who feel that they should be represented in Wikpedia. It is not up to the individual to decide this, but to the editing collective abiding by the policies and norms of the encyclopedia. Thanks for trusting to the community. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 04:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Tuck901: Please do not try to move the article to main space in its current state. As Ceyockey said, it will just be deleted. You are strongly discouraged from writing about yourself: see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. If someone else writes such an article the very first requirement is to establish notability. We can fix any other problem. We cannot fix (lack of) notability: see WP:AMOUNT. -Arch dude (talk) 05:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

How can I publish my wiki article to the public wiki? Neil Patel - Dentist

How can I publish my wiki article to the public wiki? Neil Patel - Dentist

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themolarmechanic (talkcontribs) 06:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I presume that you mean User:Themolarmechanic/sandbox. Well, you have to (i) remove the promotional tone ("This DSO is poised to shake up the $140 billion dollar US dental industry", etc, phrasing I expect to find in the messages that go straight into my spam folder), (ii) make sure that every assertion is backed up reliable, independent, published sources (of course "independent" means "neither written nor paid for by Patel, or by friend, employee, family member, classmate, etc"), and (iii) show that Patel meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. Since he is, you say, still a student, it's unlikely that he does. Better let him wait for a few years. -- Hoary (talk) 07:05, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Bogus draft help

Hey there. So basically, I've found a user who has recently been making a bunch of fictional drafts/drafts for things that would probably never be accepted into mainspace (a transcript for an episode of a cartoon, of which the episode in question is barely notable whatsoever). In terms of 'fictional', some of the drafts of are episodes 'they' created because they will 'be a producer when they grow up' - 100% WP:FANCRUFT. Plenty, if not, all of the drafts in question can most likely be deleted. Is there a certain way to get these drafts quickly/easily deleted, or should I go straight to the Administrator noticeboard and explain the issue there and give links to the drafts in question?

I know of the whole Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion area- but I'm honestly not the best with nominating things for deletion. If that is the best route, I'm pretty sure G3 would apply to the fictional/fan-made drafts, so would I just add {{db-hoax}} to the tops of those drafts and wait for them to be deleted? Also not sure what those transcript drafts would fall under, but I would assume WP:PLOT since Wikipedia is not the place to post the full transcript/script of an episode, which would be more appropriate for a fan-run Wiki.

One of the mainspace articles they had previously created was taken down after I had proposed it for deletion (was using Twinkle, I believe I was meaning to use 'XFD', but accidentally went on with 'PROD' instead).

Thanks in advance. Magitroopa (talk) 07:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Links to other languages

I tried to link de:Japanischer Staudenknöterich to en:Reynoutria japonica but did not succeed. How should I do this? I like to use Wikipedia in several languages to find the correct translations of very special or scientific terms. Peter Michor 09:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwm86 (talkcontribs)

Wikidata merge failure reported at wikidata:MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Merge.js#Merge failure. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


why have the femenists hijacked half the page with their nonsense? thought this page was about men and their autocratic society? surely the feminist nonsense should be on the feminist page/portal/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello. The place to discuss this is Talk:Patriarchy. But I recommend that you read that talk page and its archives before you post there. --ColinFine (talk) 12:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


How can I add biography documents on myself on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayodunmoye (talkcontribs) 11:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect edit


I've just edited something I know was incorrect and immediately Pablomartinez edited it back to how it was. I cannot seem to get back to him to ask him his reasons and to stop him doing this again. I know my information is correct as it is about my uncle and I want the facts on here to reflect exactly who he was.

The entry I'm trying to edit is for Dennis Herbert Cochran. His real name was Dennis Herbert Cockram, son of Edith Grace Lilian and Herbert William Cockram. Once he enlisted into the RAF his name was mistranscribed as Cochran and as he didn't correct them then, this was how he was known in the RAF from this point. I was trying to change his name until this point to show the real Dennis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GillOwen16 (talkcontribs) 13:04, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • The correct place to discuss this is at Talk:Dennis Cochran. The name of the article needs to be decided by consensus, guided by reliable sources. Brianjd (talk) 13:29, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
    • @GillOwen16: Feel free to add the information about the name change again, but this time cite a reliable source for that information; but if your edits are reverted despite the citation, do not repeat them without gaining consensus; definitely do not change the name throughout the article without getting a consensus on its talk page. Brianjd (talk) 13:35, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)The trouble is, GillOwen16, that you didn't give any sources. I haven't got access to any of the sources in the current example, but I'm guessing that they all refer to him as Cochran. In order to change that, you need a reliable published source|: Wikipedia works entirely on published sources; personal knowledge isn't accepted unless it is corroborated by a published source: see verifiability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ColinFine (talkcontribs) 13:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@GillOwen16: Wikipedia is a bit strange and needs some getting used to. We are crowdsourced, with over ten million anonymous editors over the last two decades and over 100,000 editors over the last 30 days. We have no capability to authenticate editors' identity or veracity, and no desire to do so as it would be a logistical nightmare. Instead, we require that all facts added to Wikipedia be verifiable (WP:V) by citation to reliable sources. This is extremely frustrating when you know that the sources are wrong, but it's all we've got. I hope you can find such a source so we can mention it in the article. -Arch dude (talk) 16:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

template for editing talk page archives?

Is there a Twinkle template for editing talk page archives? I'm sure I've seen one before, but couldn't find it just now. Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, How can I ask someone to review the article I have submitted to wikipedia

Hi, can someone help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsanupkumar (talkcontribs) 14:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Itsanupkumar: You already asked all of the interested "someones". Your article is in the list to be reviewed. Each Wikipedia editor is a volunteer and each of us does whatever tasks they want to do. Some editors like to do reviews. They grab articles from that list. -Arch dude (talk) 15:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Itsanupkumar: Actually no one is likely to be interested after this edit, where you removed a COI tag, records of AfC declines and other important templates. Brianjd (talk) 15:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
I have restored all the declinature / COI / rejection / autobio. etc. notices. Eagleash (talk) 15:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
​Just going to sneak in here and also plop down WP:AUTO, where writing about yourself is strongly discouraged. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hya I've received a message from Luk3 saying I edited something....

Hya I've received a message from Luk3 saying I edited something....

Only, I don't edit wikipedia, and this is not a shared IP address.

I don't know what has happened, I'm being accused of things I have no connection with, and would like this resolved.

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

The edits from your IP address are listed at Special:Contributions/ --David Biddulph (talk) 15:57, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
According to WHOIS, you are using a shared IP address [1]. Is there a reason you think otherwise? If this concerns you, you can create a Wikipedia account. That is more anonymous than not logging in (e.g., I see you are using an Irish 3G network), and it removes this sort of annoyance. -Arch dude (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I have previously set up 2 factor authentication; now I have a new device and don't know what to do

The part I don't understand is how to get a QR code to scan with the authenticator app on my new device. Please don't just link me to a help article; I've read those and I'm stuck. ike9898 (talk) 19:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ike9898: I suggest emailing, per WP:2FA. RudolfRed (talk) 23:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

How can I fix this white logo on white background issue on Square Pharmaceuticals? is there any way to change the background of an infobox? - RRRW (talk) 20:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

You'd have to upload an image with a background RRRW. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 20:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Or, you could just remove transparency from the existing image and give it a suitable background colour instead. Chaheel Riens (talk) 21:06, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Received spam from company claiming to edit wikipedia for money


I have received the following spam from a company offering to create and maintain ("moderate") a webpage about you on Wikipedia, for money. I guess this goes against Wikipedia's rules, do I mistake? Any way to fight against such practice?

Dear [...], Have you ever wondered of having a Wikipedia page for yourself or your company? We can help you get a Wikipedia page for yourself or your brand.

Why have a Wikipedia page?

Google loves Wikipedia and as such ranks it high in search results. Wikipedia is also the first place people go when they Google your name. By leveraging Wikipedia, you can help control your Online Profile and present yourself to the world. Usually Wikipedia only accepts pages on celebrities and famous companies, if you are looking to get one for yourself, we can help you with that. Having a page for yourself in Wikipedia, brings you more credibility and makes you more famous.

We have been editing on Wikipedia for 9+ years and We've created tons of pages for companies, people, brands, products, and of course for academic purposes as well.

We own multiple accounts on Wikipedia with page curation and new page reviewer rights, so we can create and moderate pages with almost zero risk of another mod taking it down.

There are few Wikipedia editors who are willing to create a page for money, and most of them are scared to offer this service directly, so they do it through their trusted sellers who mark up the price to $1500 - $2500 per page.

Because you're buying directly from an experienced Wikipedia editor and mod, you'll get your page a lot cheaper, faster and with more reliability.

Let me know if you are interested


Stella Richards

Unsubscribe: [] (I added /bla to prevent linking to that server, as I've realized that all mail addresses of people who unsubscribed are actually collected in a file there, freely accessible)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomWandererToo (talk • contribs) 21:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC) 
RandomWandererToo There isn't much you can do about the email(other than delete it). If an administrator is editing for pay and not disclosed it per the terms of WP:PAID, that would be a serious breach of policy. 331dot (talk) 21:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@RandomWandererToo and 331dot: The #possible wikipedia editing scam section above has a similar question. Seagull123's response there was "This may be what is described at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Scam warning. That page asks you to forward any 'scam' emails you received to [email protected] Please see that page for more information." GoingBatty (talk) 21:59, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@GoingBatty and 331dot: Thanks for the information, I have forwarded the email as indicated.
I would draw you attention to the statement that reveals that "you're buying directly from an experienced Wikipedia editor and mod" whose experience doesn't extend to the fact that Wikipedia doesn't have moderators. Caveat Emptor. Britmax (talk) 19:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with splitting and merging article

Please take a look at what I have done in splitting part of Pedal steel guitar and moving it to the parent article Steel guitar. I do not know how to do a history merge, so I just copied and did not delete the section "History and evolution" so it could be undone if I made a mistake (its a copy-and-paste, not a cut-and-paste). I put my proposal on the talk page for a couple of weeks and had no response, so I made the move. I am the principal author of this section anyway, so I'm moving my own words. Please advise. Regards, Eagledj (talk) 22:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Eagledj: You cannot separate out a page history for a specific section which was edited between edits to other parts of the page. You did the right thing here except you should have linked Pedal steel guitar and used the exact page name with lowercase s in "steel". Wikilinks work in edit summaries. Also link Steel guitar in the edit summary when you remove the section from Pedal steel guitar. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

May 30

Difference between resources and external links?

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Difference between resources and external links? Ram nareshji (talk) 02:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: Here's the difference:
  • Wikipedia:Reliable sources states "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy."
  • Wikipedia:External links states these links "include those that contain further research that is accurate and on-topic, information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail, or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to its accuracy."
You can read each document for further information. Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 03:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I want to edit Hillary Clinton wiki article using CNN News website. Will it comes under Reliable Source or External Link? Ram nareshji (talk) 04:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: for an extensive article like that one, an "external link" is probably inappropriate. Add any useful information from your source into the correct place in the body of the text somewhere and use your source as a reference for that information. You don't add the reference by editing the "References" section. Instead you use special syntax. If you are unsure how to add a reference, see WP:Referencing for beginners. Use the "Show preview" button to check your work, and if you have problems, come back here. -Arch dude (talk) 05:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

So News articles like CNN, fox & BBC etc are not allowed to take as source for wikipedia articles? Ram nareshji (talk) 05:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: News articles from CNN, Fox, and BBC are allowed as sources for Wikipedia articles. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Sources for more details. GoingBatty (talk) 05:30, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

But User:Arch dude says it's inappropriate. See in his reply. I am confused. Ram nareshji (talk) 05:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: What Arch dude said is yes, you can use news articles from those cites as references. You should not put their URLs as is in the "External links" section, and you should follow the steps outlined in WP:REFBEGIN (an easier version that Nick Moyes made can be found at WP:EASYREFBEGIN). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Ram nareshji: Those are reliable sources (WP:RS) and they can be used. As a general rule, in a well-developed article we use our sources as references instead of putting them in the "external links" section. Inside the reference, you will add the URL of your source, so it is an fact a link to an external site, but on Wikipedia we usually use the words "external links" to refer to entries in the "external links" section. In the past, we used to encourage editors to create "stub articles", with perhaps one or two paragraphs of text and an "external links" section instead of properly-formatted references, and we used those stubs as starting points. Now that we have articles for most major topics, we prefer to try for higher quality articles from the start, and major articles like Hillary Clinton do not have an "External links" section. -Arch dude (talk) 05:45, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

If I did not put their URLs as is in the "External links" section, then wikipedia shows me This section does not cite any sources Ram nareshji (talk) 05:48, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Ram nareshji, have you read WP:REFBEGIN or WP:EASYREFBEGIN and followed them? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:22, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok resolved. Ram nareshji (talk) 17:28, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

How wikipedia lost its old edits?

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How wikipedia lost its old edits? What went wrong while upgrading wikipedia back then? I think Edits before 2003 Ram nareshji (talk) 05:16, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Ram nareshji, are you asking about edit histories of articles? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes Ram nareshji (talk) 05:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Wikipedia's oldest articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)


I-Robben Island sisiqithi esidumileyo ehlabathini.Kulapho kwavalelwa khona amabanjwa ezopolitiko.Omnye Wala mabanjwa ngowayesakuba nguMongameli woMzantsi Afrika,uNelson Mandela.Ekuhambeni kwexesha onke amabanjwa ayevalelwe apha akhululwa.Namhlanje esi siqithi,emva kokukhululwa kwamabanjwa ezopolitiko,sajikwa saba yimuziyamu.Sinomtsalane kubakhenkethi abaninzi.Ngoku esi siqithi sesifunqula imicimbi namatheko. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:02, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Please post in English; this appears to be in Xhosa. As noted below and in a previous instance, please discuss at the appropriate article talk page. Thank you. Eagleash (talk)


After Steve left medical school in June 1972,he remained in Durban and worked full-time for the Black Community Programmes which he had helped to build.He knew the needs of the black community and he believed in self-help.The apartheid laws and inferior Bantu education and medical services made it very difficult for black people to learn skills and to have the medical care that they needed.Black Community Programmes taught people how to read and write, and skills such as weaving and dress-making. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:14, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

As noted above, please discuss this edit at Talk:Steve Biko. 331dot (talk) 08:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Delsort archiving

I created Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Biology and for some reason despite being linked from the flat delsort page, AnomieBOT is not archiving closed discussions delsorted to this page, which has necessitated me archiving them myself (example). Can someone please explain to me why AnomieBOT is not archiving deletion discussions on this subpage? IntoThinAir (talk) 12:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

IntoThinAir, Probably a good question for @Anomie:, who of course runs the bot. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 15:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
@IntoThinAir: You need to add it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Compact for the bot to find it. Anomie 17:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 Done Done, thanks. IntoThinAir (talk) 17:28, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

If wikipedia is free for everyone/editors why donation banner at the top?

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If wikipedia is free for everyone/editors why donation banner at the top?

I know it's free for all. Its just a text site with pictures & videos but very few . For this , why wikipedia prompts me to donate? Sorry for rude if I am.[[User:|Ram nareshji]] (talk) 17:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: While access to Wikipedia is free, Wikipedia still has expenses they need to pay for. GoingBatty (talk) 17:47, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Pay for what? Pretty sure I believe total data of wikipedia will be less than 1 TB due to text & pics and less videos Ram nareshji (talk) 17:50, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: It's more than just a single 4TB hard drive sitting on a server in the cloud somewhere. The Wikimedia foundation has 800 servers and 350 staff. See Wikimedia_Foundation#Finances. The WMF projects as a whole are consistently in the top ten most active sites on the Internet, so the aggregate bandwidth is high. That requires lots of servers, each with lots of bandwidth, all of which costs money. -Arch dude (talk) 18:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
@Ram nareshji: See WP:DUMP. The English Wikipedia alone, just text, is several terabytes, not including pictures. You need to add to that all the other language wikipedias, plus commons, plus the other projects the foundation runs. And as mentioned above, data storage is just one part of the cost. RudolfRed (talk) 19:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
In addition to what the others have said, Wikipedia is asking for ‘’voluntary’’ donations. That doesn’t mean it isn’t free. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 19:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Long-running vandalism


There has been long-running vandalism on the Hamid Shirvani article (specifically removing negative coverage about Shirvani). There are examples here [2] and here [3] from earlier today and last January, respectively. Both IP addresses removed the exact same info and used the same edit summary. It just feels very strange. David O. Johnson (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Report at ANI page. Change title to serial vandalism. Ram nareshji (talk) 17:55, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Why do editors risk their accounts by editing?

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Suppose I edited some animal species (mostly not locked for new editors). I provide proper source. Next day, I may get ban due to wrong edit which also known as vandalism. Ram nareshji (talk) 17:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

A merely wrong edit is not vandalism, and a wrong edit is not going to get an innocent editor blocked for vandalism. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:43, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
[Edit Conflict] Editing in good faith, even if mistakenly, is never seen as vandalism: vandalism is editing with deliberate intent to damage Wikipedia – believe me, we can tell the difference.
Everybody who edits Wikipedia makes some mistakes at first, and hopefully fewer as they go on and learn more about the project. When someone makes a mistake (such as not providing an acceptable source, or providing an acceptable source in an incorrect way), someone else will usually revert it, and then the two (plus others) can (calmly) discuss what the best solution is, usually on the article in question's Talk page. This is called the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle cycle and is how editing mistakes are meant to be handled. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 18:46, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Ram nareshji, if your intention is to behave this time, welcome back. Please, however, refrain from wasting everybody's time asking inane and pointless questions, particularly those drawn in from elsewhere. You will be banned again if you do that as some of us here do remember you. Britmax (talk) 19:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

how to use help channel

I want to retrieve for improvement an article I wrote that was rejected. I just want the text back so I can park it in my own sandbox. Clearly I am an idiot because the instructions added to my userpage are incomprehensible, or at least do not take me to anything that appears usable. I was trying to find the help channel but that is even worse; there is no place on the irc page that accepted a text message. I would be grateful if a real live administrator could contact me. thanks. user:alteripse Yes I wrote hundreds of articles here and was an administrator for years and helped people whenever I could. That was then; now the operations seem unrecognizable. Sorry.

  • If you're referring to the article User:Alteripse/Philadelphia Association for Critical Thinking, you can get it restored by asking at WP:REFUND. CrowCaw 19:03, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Crow. that is the article. I had not recognized wp:refund. That was far simpler than trying to figure out the IRC channel. I got the banned message several times without having successfully typed a single letter. But the article is all I wanted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alteripse (talkcontribs) 19:13, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

using text from website on wiki about page?

Dear Sir/Madam, I maintain the website and the wiki page for my organization. I am trying to update the wiki page with the same history text as on the website but it won't allow it saying it is a violation of copyright. How can I have the text be the same? How can I fix it so the information is the same for consistency? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sitesantafe (talkcontribs) 19:06, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Sitesantafe. I'm afraid you are mistaken. You do not "maintain the wiki page": in fact the only role that you (and anybody else in your organisation) have in respect of Wikipedia's article about your organisation is to suggest changes on the article's talk page.
Many many people are under the misapprehension that Wikipedia is a vehicle for people and organisation to tell the world about themselves: it is not: that is called promotion, and is forbidden on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which contains neutral, sourced articles about notable topics. If your organisation is notable in Wikipedia's special sense - roughly, that several people who have no connection with the organisation have chosen to publish material about it in reliable places - then we can have an article about it, which should be almost entirely based on what those independent authors have published: Wikipedia has very little interest in what an organisation (or a person) wants to say about themselves. It in no way belongs to the organisation.
There are three other issues I must mention. First, editing with a conflict of interest is not forbidden, but you need to understand what this means, and be cautious; if in addition you are in any way remunerated for this work (eg if you are employed, even as a volunteer, and are doing this as part of your duties) it is mandatory that you make a declaration that you are a paid editor.
Secondly, the material on your own website, even if it is suitable in tone for a Wikipedia article, is copyright, and Wikipedia does not accept copyright material unless it has been explicitly licensed with a suitable copyleft licence: see donating copyright materials.
Thirdly, user accounts must be for individuals, and may not have names that suggest that they are representing an organisation. "Joanna at SITE Santa Fe" would be acceptable, but not what you have at the moment. Please either change it, or abandon it and make a new account. You still need to look at COI though. --ColinFine (talk) 19:38, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

error when i want to publish an edited article

"Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 500)" this is the error message i got when i try to publish an article i edited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gladson10 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Gladson10: Unfortunately, technical glitches do occur from time to time, but they usually don't last long. If you see it repeatedly, report it at WP:VPT. RudolfRed (talk) 20:53, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

May 31

I edited some information about my dad. When I clicked "publish" they cited ERROR, ref tag . How do I edit a passage without this ref error coming up?

@RF Jeppesen: Ignoring the WP:COI issue for now, you created ref tags that have nothing in them, hence the error. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:57, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

What ban imposed on me?

All my posts are locked . I was shocked. Been using 2012, I never vandalize single article. I was posting in talk page only. Ram nareshji (talk) 01:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: You've been copying and pasting questions from other websites onto the reference desks, copying and pasting text from unreliable sources onto talk pages. That goes against WP:COPYVIO, a site policy with legal implications. It doesn't matter if you're sticking to just the talk page, you're still causing trouble.
Take this tutorial to learn how to actually edit. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Ram nareshji, taking a look at your talk page, wasn't there a similar issue to this discussed years ago? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:49, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Germ theory

The Germ Theory article has something weird at 2.3. I don't know how to report it, but I've never seen it before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:57, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know. Someone improperly added a note commenting on the section, though the entire section was primary source based original research so I've removed that section. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

The main page talk page is not a talk page?

I'm wondering why one of the bullet points at Talk:Main Page says that it is not a talk page? Why is it not? Is it something special to the Main Page? RudolfRed (talk) 02:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, you are correct, "this is not a talk page" are indeed words that you read when you read Talk:Main Page, and this is a problem that needs to be fixed. Unless someone reading this fixes it first, I will go through the steps to get it fixed. Good catch!
Now for the boring technical stuff, which you can ignore if it isn't interesting to you.
A Wikipedia page can include another Wikipedia page. The is called "transclusion".
In this case, if you try to edit Talk:Main Page you won't be able to find or edit the words "this is not a talk page" even though they are clearly part of the page. That's because the page contains this:
 = Main Page error reports =
 {{Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors}}
The above is what you will see if you click the edit link of the "Main Page error reports" section of Talk:Main Page
The above transcludes the page Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors which does contain the words "this is not a talk page" and indeed, is not itself a talk page. The advice "Do not use {{edit fully-protected}}, which will not give you a faster response; it is unnecessary as this page is not protected and in fact causes problems if used here, as this is not a talk page." is appropriate for that page, which is the page you get to if you click on the WP:ERRORS link instead of the edit link.
So that's why the page is wrong, but it still needs to be fixed.
(BTW, You can expect at least one reply to this comment from someone who believes that we shouldn't fix obvious errors if doing so is inconvenient or caused by existing stupidity in the way Wikipedia puts pages together for you to read. Nothing good comes from arguing with people who hold that position. They are the same people who think the old MS-DOS error message "Keyboard not found, Press F1 to Resume" was just fine.[4]) --Guy Macon (talk) 05:54, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I have used {{talk other}} to omit the text on Talk:Main Page.[5] PrimeHunter (talk) 08:02, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I don’t think it’s an obvious error, especially given that Talk:Main Page is likely to attract visitors unfamiliar with Wikipedia.
Perhaps the root of the problem is that we transclude an entire non-talk page (not template) into a talk page, rather than just linking to it. That sort of thing just confuses everyone, especially when you have to introduce things like {{talk other}}. (Now we start the argument about whether it’s worth fixing. I’m not familiar with these pages, so I can’t really comment about that.) Brianjd (talk) 09:41, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanations and the fix. RudolfRed (talk) 17:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
And again, thanks for your sharp eye, catching an obvious error that nobody else noticed.
Given that I can be a bit pedantic about fixing minor errors, here is a free joke:
Q: How to you comfort a pedant?
A: There, their, they're...
--Guy Macon (talk) 18:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Is there a clean method for exporting articles as .docx?

I'm checking out the WikiProject WP:SPOKEN as narration is something I am good at. When I prep a copy for reading, I generally take a .docx file of it so that I can make small changes to it for easier reading. I see that most pages have 2 options under "Print/export" in the sidebar: "Download as .pdf" and "Printable version". While it's just an extra step for me to convert a .pdf into .docx, I was wondering if there was a script or something similar out there that would allow me to bypass doing that. I looked at Help:WordToWiki only to find it's more about the process in reverse. Thanks in advance. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


Resolved: Brianjd (talk) 11:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Suthanu,samyukthana,pragati,pragya,printha&sumithra(daughter) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4060:31A:FC4B:27F:D1E:31E1:E990 (talk) 09:54, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

I see you've posted the same thing at Talk:Draupadi. You're going to need to write an English sentence, stating your question or request coherently, if you want people to help you. Please only do so in one place at a time (that article talk page is probably the better place to do so). Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 10:04, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, they did, ignoring the instructions in {{edit semi-protected}} to write a complete and specific description of the request. I have rejected this request. Brianjd (talk) 10:12, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Feature proposal to Module:Interlinear

Hi, I left a short proposal to add a feature to Module:Interlinear at its talk page, Module talk:Interlinear. Seems like this talk page is not monitored by many but I was not sure where to ping to, so I'm leaving a message here. Could someone help me by delivering the message to people who might be interested in taking a look at it? Thanks. --Benzenekim (talk) 10:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Benzenekim: I would suggest that you ask User:Uanfala, who created the module and has been its most frequent editor. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
@David Biddulph: Thanks for the suggestion! --Benzenekim (talk) 10:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Justine Harun-Mahdavi deleting the page

Dear Wikipedia-Community, this is the page of Justine Harun-Mahdavi, autor of the book "Not without my husband". This is an autobiography and a historic book. It has been written in German and was translated in Farsi and has been published in different print media in Germany, in the USA and in Iran. She is now listed as a famous german/iranian autor. The main figure of the book are my mother Justine Harun-Mahdavi and my father Dr. Dipl.-Ing. Massoud Harun-Mahdavi, who has been a former iranian politician between 1969 and 1979 and now one of the most experienced iranian exile-politicians. So I cannot follow Jeff G.´s request for deleting this page and the uploaded pictures in any way. I hope you will avoid the deletion. If there is a need for confirming the information on the pages of "Not without my husband" and "Justine Harun-Mahdavi" and the recently by me edited page of "Massoud Harun-Mahdavi" then I would appreciate to receive some practical information how to upload pictures and documents. Unfortunaley I am not able to get through all the stuff you call "REGULATIONS" because as a dentist I´m in a full time job and I do not have the time to check all the regulations of Wikipedia. But I beleive that these informations are necessary and more than interesting for many people using Wikipedia. I recommend that your community should build up also a section to prove the positive sight and not only the negative sights of edited pages.

Best regards, --Sasan Harun-Mahdavi (talk) 12:02, 31 May 2020 (UTC) Sasan

  • @Sasan Harun-Mahdavi: You must add one reliable source to the article. That is Wikipedia policy. If you do this, we can help you fix any other problem with the article. Brianjd (talk) 12:06, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

How to Make Our Organization Page Live

Hello Team Wikipedia,

Can you please help us to live our organization's Wikipedia page live?

Draft URL:

Let us know your feedback to make it live.

Anandicejpr (talk) 14:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)Anandicejpr

  • User blocked. Brianjd (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • This is apparently a cut-and-paste recreation of an abandoned draft deleted in 2016, complete with the various quality-control tags from the 2016 version. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Wrong information

Wrong information "Hausa Koko" is Nigeria from the Hausa tribe ( Hausas are the one of the three majority tribe in Nigeria), it is not Ghanaian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:145:8003:6E30:6447:17BF:D421:6BBA (talk) 14:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, please raise the issue at the appropriate article talk page and support your statement. If you wish, you are free to make the change yourself but you must supply a reliable source. Please link to pages where you are encountering difficulty and (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Article not reviewed after my latest edits since February 24


The page Carmen Lebbos has multiple issues and the edits and issues history is clear for anyone who visits the page. However I followed up about this matter and got help from pro editors and followed their instructions, and added my edits on Talk page for Carmen Lebbos, another review was made and asked for additional fixes, I did those fixes and submitted as you can see on (this link) since February 24, and since then no review was made, is there something wrong in my request that it has not been reviewed? Please help, Carmen Lebbos is a very well known actress here since the 80s and I'm trying to fix the issues in her article.

--Saleemdeek (talk) 18:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)saleemdeek

@Saleemdeek: You had made a request at Talk:Carmen Lebbos on 15 February, then it was declined on 17 February. On 24 February you confused the issue by editing your earlier request and changing the date on it, but (as I said and as you can see on the page) that request had already been declined. The response on 17 Feb to your request said: "Please feel free to submit a new edit request below when these changes are implemented", but you didn't do that. If you want to make a new request you need to use the template {{request edit}} and include the relevant detail. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Adding images

Hello, I added some new images to the article Hyborian War with appropriate fair use rationales, in preparation for its second FAC nomination. I'm not an expert on images on Wikipedia, but I did reduce the file sizes to ~30kb and relatively small length x height pixel sizes before uploading (based on previous experience). Apparently not small enough as a bot still came along and said the images were too large. That's fine, as normally another bot comes along within 24 hours and reduces the image sizes to whatever the acceptable parameters are. And indeed, the tags like this one and like this one say that's going to happen. But it's been over a week now and it hasn't happened—although it always has before. Is there a way for me to request the bot to resize the images? Or do I need to try again to resize the images outside of Wikipedia and upload them again? Thanks. Airborne84 (talk) 18:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk page in disorder

Resolved: Stray <ref> tags used as examples disappeared content when closing tags introduced. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

I just edited the talk page Talk:Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in December 2019, with the effect that some sections, plus the paragraph I added, does not display. Here's the diff [6]. ??? Sechinsic (talk) 19:29, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sechinsic: The most likely reason is that you introduced some closing </ref> tags, which interacted with the stray <ref> up in the section Question about in-line referencing. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Seems to work. Fantastic! Many thanks from Sechinsic (talk) 19:54, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Some misdirection?

Not sure quite how to explain this, but here goes anyway!

I went to select 'Spooked (Pretty Maids album)' but each time I do, it redirects me back to 'Pretty Maids'!

Other Pretty Maids albums take me to the appropriate page, it only seems to be 'Spooked' that does it!

Can you help please?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fat Chewbacca (talk • contribs) 20:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Fat Chewbacca: in 2010, the album was determined by consensus to not be independently notable enough to have its own article, so that article name is now a redirect to Pretty Maids. -Arch dude (talk) 20:48, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Bringing articles to featured status

I would like to bring the articles Astronomy and Universe to featured status. Do you think they are ready to be featured articles? If not, how can I improve them so they are ready to be featured articles? Interstellarity (talk) 21:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Interstellarity, This seems like an odd place to ask this question. That said, I am not involved in the process, so do not know whether there is a better place to have such a discussion. S Philbrick(Talk) 22:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
@Sphilbrick: Do you think Wikipedia talk:Featured articles would be a better place to ask? Interstellarity (talk) 22:41, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Interstellarity, Probably, but again, I have never been involved. That said, I'm working on a review of one of the sentences in the Astronomy article, which I think needs some work. S Philbrick(Talk) 22:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi Interstellarity. I'm just passing through, with a question of my own, but happened to see this. You'll want to visit the page on Featured Article Candidates for information on this. At that page, you'll also find the link to the Featured Article criteria page, which is what you should measure the articles against to determine if they are ready to be nominated. If not, further down on the criteria page are essays from experienced Wikipedians on how to improve the articles. I recommend reading through a few Featured Articles to get an idea of what is expected. You can also find a mentor for Featured Articles here, if you'd like. Hope that helps. Airborne84 (talk) 00:42, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
@Airborne84: Thanks. I'll look into it. Interstellarity (talk) 00:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Haymarket affair - no picture of newer statue

I do not know how to add it but there is no pictures of the Mary Brogger monument in the article although there are several stock photos available online. I think it would be helpful to have the monument shown. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:0:1C59:F933:639B:96D6:AAE8 (talk) 21:31, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

There are a lot of photos, but they need to be freely licensed. If you can point one out, someone can help add it. S Philbrick(Talk) 21:57, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)This appears to be part of the monument in question. That picture is on Commons, and is already used in Monuments relating to the Haymarket affair. Unfortunately, "stock photos" are rarely licensed in a way that may be used in Wikipedia. For example, I can't find a copyright statement on Mary Brøgger's site, so the pictures here must be assumed to be copyright. If somebody wishes to take a picture of the monument themselves, they can then upload the picture and license it as they do so. (I notice that both Haymarket affair and Monuments relating to the Haymarket affair say that this is not yet built, so they should probably be updated.) --ColinFine (talk) 22:02, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
ColinFine, I was initially struck by the "not yet built" comment, but upon rereading, I think that refers to "international commemoration wall, sidewalk plaques, a cultural pylon, a seating area, and banners". S Philbrick(Talk) 22:37, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria shriver

You have Arnold divorced in 2017 and Maria divorced in 2011 from each other — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:BC04:B000:65C0:FFFC:7ABE:DFD8 (talk) 22:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

This is best mentioned on the respective articles' talk pages. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Arnold Schwarzenegger#Divorce says: "Schwarzenegger and Shriver finalized their divorce in 2017, six years after separating". Maria Shriver should probably be more clear about the difference. There are also sources saying they weren't actually divorced. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:28, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

June 1

How to set hydlide password system

Use megaman X password system — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B824:538:7137:8BCD:6FE9:65DA (talk) 00:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Is this about Wikipedia?
P computing.svg This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:08, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

How to use citation needed on visual editor?

Hello there people! I've been using Wikipedia for a while, and I was just wondering how to put "citation needed" with the visual editor. Can you guys explain how to do that? Thank you! Ryan Huang-01 (talk) 00:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ryan Huang-01: I've never used the visual editor, but look at this page: Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User_guide#Editing_templates. It shows how to insert a template while editing, and the example they provide is the Citation Needed template. RudolfRed (talk) 02:20, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Ryan Huang-01, what I do:
  1. Set caret to where I want to put the tag
  2. Type {{
  3. Type in citation needed and select from dropdown menu
  4. Click the top-right button to add it —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:23, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

@Zorzon: The error at Jaynie_Anderson has been fixed by another editor. Next time, please link to the article that is giving the error and sign your name with ~~~~. RudolfRed (talk) 00:44, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Redirects appearing in default search bar


I have a quick question regarding redirect pages. I've made many of them myself but some are not appearing in the default search. For example "1992 US presidential election in Texas" appears but the 1996 one doesn't. What makes redirect pages appear in the default search bar?

--Skim127 12:55 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Skim127: 1996 US presidential election in Texas was created 30 April 2020. Many pages created since around that date are not appearing in the autocomplete feature of the search box unless you type the entire title. It's a bug and also affects articles, e.g. 2006 LNBP season. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 181#Possible issues with search function and phab:T253114. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:05, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Text highlighting querystring feature

Hi, I noticed that when accessing wikipedia articles from google search, there would be text temporarily highlighted in yellow. This occured using the #:~:text= querystring in the url.



I was wondering if there was any documentation about this feature or how to use it?

Thanks, 電放三葉 (RadioTrefoil) 01:46, 1 June 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radiotrefoil (talkcontribs)

@Radiotrefoil: This is a feature of Google Chrome and not related to Wikipedia. I also get highlighting with [] at my own site which is just simple html and does nothing to achieve it. I don't know whether other browsers support it or have similar features. Your link doesn't highlight in Firefox, Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge. I don't get such url's when I use Google search with Google Chrome so maybe it's a setting. You can ask for more at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

question re twinkle welcome templates

is there a numerical limit on how many custom templates that I can add to Twinkle, for welcoming new users? I tried to add at least ten templates, but it seems to limit me to seven custom templates total. please ping me when you reply. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 02:28, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Sm8900. There might be somebody here who can answer that, but I would have thought that WT:Twinkle was a better place to ask. --ColinFine (talk) 09:14, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Edits were undone

I just spent quite a bit of time fixing a very flawed article in terms of both structure and biased information and am very confused as to why it was all undone. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeoutie (talkcontribs) 04:07, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Yeoutie: your edits were reverted by another editor, probably because you made very large changes to History of the United States Democratic Party without first discussing them. This is one way we reach consensus, which we call bold-revert-discuss (WP:BRD). Your next step is to discuss your changes on the article's talk page. To see who reverted your edits, look at the page history. Ping the reverting editor, @Materialscientist:, as part of your discussion. Materialscientist is a very experienced editor who will probably interact with you in a positive way to reach consensus, so assume good faith (WP:AGF). -Arch dude (talk) 04:23, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Non notable songs that fails WP:NSINGLE

Category:Indian songs has lots of non notable Indian songs, most of they clearly fails Fails WP:NSINGLE. What should I do to get most of them mass deleted ? I started some PRODs but is there any more convenient approach? Thanks // Eatcha (talk) 05:25, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't know, but throw Bloodmoney on the pyre if you learn how to start it, good luck! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Eatcha. If the songs exist and the articles are not copyright violations, then they are not eligible for speedy deletion. Your only choices are PRODs or the Articles for Deletion process. Please read Wikipedia:Deletion policy for more details. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:37, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
If you nominate them for deletion, I strongly recommend you avoid a mass nomination. That would almost certainly get shot down. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Resolved: Thanks everyone // Eatcha (talk) 11:07, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Become admin

I want to become admin how can i become that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratham Rawat (talk • contribs) 08:30, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Pratham Rawat You spend a significant amount of time(months if not years) developing a good edit history that contributes to the encyclopedia, shows that you understand Wikipedia guidelines, have good judgement, a good temperament, and have a need for the administrator tools. You would then be noticed by other editors who would then nominate you for a community discussion at Requests for Adminship to see if the community feels that you merit being given the tools. Keep in mind that you can perform probably 95% of tasks on Wikipedia without being an administrator. Administrators are no better than any other editor, they simply have tools that would be irresponsible for the entire community to have. 331dot (talk) 08:34, 1 June 2020 (UTC)