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Case Created Last volunteer edit Last modified
Title Status User Time User Time User Time
Talk:HyperLogLog In Progress KingSupernova (t) 16 days, 9 hours Winged Blades of Godric (t) 4 days, 10 hours Winged Blades of Godric (t) 4 days, 10 hours
Talk:Survivor: Ghost Island Closed 100.37.125.19 (t) 4 days, 11 hours Robert McClenon (t) 1 days, 2 hours Robert McClenon (t) 1 days, 2 hours
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing#Roy Jones Jr. and Location of Foxwoods Resort Casino New Mac Dreamstate (t) 4 days, 9 hours Robert McClenon (t) 4 days, 2 hours Mac Dreamstate (t) 3 days, 14 hours
Talk:Nigeen Lake Closed 2405:205:81:7320:25F6:BF93:7B85:8AB9 (t) 1 days, 9 hours Robert McClenon (t) 1 days, 4 hours Robert McClenon (t) 1 days, 4 hours
Last updated by DRN clerk bot (talk) at 03:00, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


Current disputes

Talk:Survivor: Ghost Island

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Filed by 100.37.125.19 on 17:57, 9 December 2017 (UTC).

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing#Roy Jones Jr. and Location of Foxwoods Resort Casino

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Filed by Mac Dreamstate on 19:55, 9 December 2017 (UTC).

Have you discussed this on a talk page?

Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.

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Dispute overview

User:JMichael22 and myself disagree on how Foxwoods Resort Casino should be labelled on professional boxing record tables, specifically Roy Jones Jr., which subsequently affects 100+ other articles. User:JMichael22 maintains that the venue should be displayed as being in the Indian reservation of Mashantucket, Connecticut; I maintain that it should be displayed as being in the town of Ledyard, Connecticut, in which Mashantucket is located.

MOS:BOXING/RECORD, specifically the Location element, has long stipulated that fight locations are to be labelled as "[venue] (arena, stadium, hall, etc.), [city or town], [state], [country]". Areas within a city (boroughs, suburbs, reservations, etc.) are overly specific and should be omitted for brevity on a wikitable.

Have you tried to resolve this previously?

We have discussed extensively at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing, with both of us providing numerous WP:RS confirming that either descriptor (Mashantucket, CT; Ledyard, CT) is valid. Sources include primary and secondary. Overall, this is a labelling issue on which we cannot agree.

How do you think we can help?

Mediate on whether Foxwoods Resort Casino should be labelled, in professional boxing record tables, as being specifically in the reservation of Mashantucket, CT; or generally in the town of Ledyard, CT. Bearing in mind that labelling it as Mashantucket would somewhat disrupt the consistency set forth above in MOS:BOXING/RECORD, namely the convention of "[venue]/[city]/[state]/[country]".

Summary of dispute by JMichael22

Please keep it brief - less than 2000 characters if possible, it helps us help you quicker.

I found it very simple the Foxwwods Resort Casino sits on the Mashantucket tribal land it is owned and controlled by the Mashantucket tribe. it is declared on numerous sources that the Foxwoods Casino is located in Mashantucket, CT. The Official website and social media accounts including Twitter and Facebook state the casino is located in Mashantucket. The Land is within Ledyard but has nothing to do with the town, it stands on its own as a Native American controlled and owned venue which is located on their land Mashantucket and is not under US government control. Ledyard is a town under US government control. Something that I feel makes things clear if the casino was part of Ledyard, CT then the Native American tribe wouldn't own the land it stands but that is not the case the tribe owns the land it is on and does infact through multiple sources refer to the Casinos location as Mashantucket, CT JMichael22 (talk) 20:12, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Volunteer comment - Towns are not under US (federal) government control in the United States. Towns, whether in New England or elsewhere in the US, and municipalities with other names, are established by and subject to the state. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:19, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing#Roy Jones Jr. and Location of Foxwoods Resort Casino discussion

Please keep discussion to a minimum before being opened by a volunteer. Continue on article talk page if necessary.
  • Volunteer note - There has been adequate discussion at the project talk page. The filing editor has notified the other editor. A third editor has been involved in the discussion and should be notified. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:50, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Have now notified the other editor. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 14:34, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Nigeen Lake

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Filed by 2405:205:81:7320:25F6:BF93:7B85:8AB9 on 19:57, 12 December 2017 (UTC).