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b. → born?

Hi User:Xezbeth, how come the "b." abbreviation in Taberner page needs to be changed to "born"? Why not change the "No. overall" on SpongeBob SquarePants (season 11) page to "Number overall"? If it's wrong to have the "b." there instead, then Maiorana page is only one I can think of that still uses the "b." abbreviation, thanks.--Theo Mandela (talk) 08:21, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

It's a pointless template. "Born" is not a long word, shortening it has no benefit and a template with a tooltip is even less useful. —Xezbeth (talk) 13:05, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough User:Xezbeth, only pages that use that underlined "b." now, by the way, are Trump (surname) and Maiorana, but it won't let me edit Maiorana and Trump is a pretty big page, who knows who's watching is all I'm saying. And I do now know what you mean, because all the other surname pages just use born.--Theo Mandela (talk) 17:22, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

User:Xezbeth--Theo Mandela (talk) 17:23, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Gee (surname) b.

Hi User:Xezbeth, just letting you know that Gee (surname) still uses b. and c. templates, thanks.--Theo Mandela (talk) 06:51, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Helpful contribution

Hi User:Xezbeth, could you make a contribution to Maiorana page please? That the name is Norman French in origin, this source Della Calabria illustrata says something like: the name changed from Marogana (or Marogano) to the more easily pronounceable Maiorana (or Maiorano), possibly influenced by folk etymology (page 326). On that page the book also states that the fleur-de-lis in the coat of arms of the family also indicates a Norman origin. I just don't do edits on that scale, because more than likely no one will edit the page for many months, leaving my mistakes (that become Wikipedia's mistakes) on show. Hope you can help, thanks. --Theo Mandela (talk) 17:21, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

I can't read Italian. If your source contradicts what's in the article then I see no problem with rewriting it. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks User:Xezbeth, I can't read Italian either, you could ask User:Lambiam, who gave me this reliable source because I was explaining to them that the coat of arms for the family (here [1]) is Norman, not Italian, and they confirmed it. I know you're experienced with writing surname articles, but here are some examples of Norman surname pages: Molyneux, Banister (surname). Thanks again.--Theo Mandela (talk) 19:35, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

How's it going?

By the way, User:Xezbeth you've got the go-a-head to make that edit to Maiorana, how is it going? Please let me know 👍--Theo Mandela (talk) 21:18, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

I never said I would do anything. I rarely add content to articles as it is, let alone when other people tell me to. —Xezbeth (talk) 10:04, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
User:Xezbeth, Not telling you, asking because I know you've done surname articles before and here I've gave you the info, just need it to be phrased right (I wouldn't be good at that). User:Lambiam's right with you doing it, Molyneux and Banister (surname) are good examples of Norman name article layouts.--Theo Mandela (talk) 11:35, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

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page review

User:Xezbeth, I made an edit to Maiorana page and hope you can have a look at it and make changes if needed, not sure if links are need in "surname" and "Norman French" for example, but if you can correct any mistake I made, follow example of good surname pages please like: Evans (surname)Howard (surname) --Theo Mandela (talk) 04:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Removed the references

User:Xezbeth, I'm done with Maiorana page, but have removed the references from your last version, is this ok? Thanks--Theo Mandela (talk) 06:31, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

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Links on surnames

Hi User:Xezbeth, do you know what the rules are for links on surname articles? What should and what shouldn't be linked? Fisher (surname) has no links, but Maiorana has loads, thanks.--Theo Mandela (talk) 20:12, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

It's the same as any other article. If there's a relevant article on a given term and it isn't a common word per WP:OVERLINK, then it should probably be linked. There's nothing in the lead for Fisher (surname) that I would consider linking though. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:50, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
User:Xezbeth, does that mean that on Maiorana for example, the "Italian" and "surname" don't need links? I noticed some surname articles link "surname" itself and the national origin, and others don't?--Theo Mandela (talk) 12:28, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I do not link them personally, but others do. It's not something that I'm going to make an effort to unlink. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
User:Xezbeth, I think you did unlink "surname" on Taberner though, is it important or not I mean? Thanks--Theo Mandela (talk) 12:34, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
It's not important. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:36, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

For Your Viewing Pleasure

Here's where I originally found the paleontological chimera article Chimera (disambiguation)--Mr Fink (talk) 16:10, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Spindel

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Class for given name articles

Hi Xezbeth, I'm a bit intrigued by your mass changing of class at various given name articles, for example [2] and [3]. Is this something that has been agreed anywhere, for example at Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponymy? If not, I think you should revert the changes and discuss it. Ordinarily an page on a human name is regarded as an article, because such names are usually encyclopedic in their own right, and there is some prose written about them. This applies even if quite a large chunk of the article is actually devoted to listing notable people with that name. However, if there has been an agreement somewhere to alter this convention, then please let me know. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 13:25, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

I can't recall a formal discussion. There probably isn't one, since you're the only person in five years who's cared enough to ask me about anthroponymy project classes. Both of those articles look like lists to me. But if you disagree then feel free to revert on articles with lots of prose, I won't argue about it. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:46, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

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Deprod: Abusaria

Hello, I have deprodded Abusaria because it has been to AFD in the past. I only did this for procedural reasons and have no prejudice against nominating this "article" at AFD. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:00, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

I thought someone would. That AfD is ridiculous though since it's 11 years old, has nonsensical keep reasoning and grouped dozens of articles together, many of which have since been deleted. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:36, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

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Redirect for Stones

Your persistent redirect from the Stones page to Rock (geology) is contrary to basic English. Perhaps you could explain why you think that the plural of "stone", a non-count noun, might ever be "stones" in a geological sense? Have nice day. John beta (talk) 14:05, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

The redirect has existed in its current form for TWELVE years. Get consensus first, it's not a difficult concept. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:59, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Question regarding the short surname SIAs and floruit

Hello again. Regarding surname SIAs, would it be considered overlinking to link to floruit where necessary? When AWB detects the fl. abbreviation, it wants to turn it into the link to the page I described above. Thank you. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk • contribs) 23:56, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

It's not something that I link to manually but I wouldn't consider it overlinking. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:07, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

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Makino (disambiguation)

Please verify my interlink.Xx236 (talk) 09:23, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

is there such page in Japanese Wikipedia?Xx236 (talk) 10:08, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Where?

Where exactly did you get your username from? 92.17.88.180 (talk) 12:41, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

I can't remember. Probably some random list since all my usual ones were already in use. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:43, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

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Takanobu Takahashi renaming

Hi User:Xezbeth. Just noticed the inversion of the person's name in article Takanobu Takahashi. I'm kinda aware of the difference between the Eastern and Western practice of first name/surname usage, but don't have a working knowledge on it. Should Prof. Takahashi Takanobu's name be changed to his actual name as added by you? If so, should we rename the article? Same holds with article Shuzo Matsunaga. Thanks. Rasnaboy (talk) 04:32, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Per WP:JTITLE, using the western name order is correct, unless there's reliable sources that show they prefer to use the reverse. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification, Xezbeth. Have a nice day. Rasnaboy (talk) 06:20, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

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Undeletions

I'm not, at least half of the undeletions I tried (with TWINKLE) failed because the server returned an error response. I just tried again and again until they all completed. Hut 8.5 20:05, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

countries in name articles

Hi Xezbeth, quick question, as I'm not familiar with how some things are done. I've seen that in articles about names you typically unlink countries and remove country categories. Is that a policy or a preference? I can see both sides of the argument. Is there anything along the lines of a rationale for doing it in this particular way? I don't mind, and I do appreciate consistency. Thanks! DrVogel (talk) 16:16, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

I don't link to them per MOS:OVERLINK. I remove categories when they aren't supported by the article's prose. If I was being strict then I would remove any reference to language or origin that isn't referenced, but that isn't realistic since the vast majority of name articles ignore that. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:25, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
If you're asking about Category:Nigeria specifically, that was because it's far too broad. Category:Nigerian names exists if you want to put it there, but those categories are not something that I go out of my way to add. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:00, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Uber (disambiguation)

Perhaps I've misunderstood what you were trying to accomplish. Mind enlightening me? General Ization Talk 21:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! RE: Anthroponymy > Biography

Hi, you're absolutely correct, I accidentally used the wrong tag! Anthroponymy instead of Biography. Also, you're so fast!! You fixed it yourself before I had the chance to rectify it! Thanks very much! Dr. Vogel (talk) 17:13, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Template:Association of American Universities

Hi Xezbeth, I've lowered the protection level on this from TRPOT to SPROT - it only has 79 uses and while they are are pages with larger views it also has not had much vandalism. If I'm missing something and you think this still needs a higher level, please let me know. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 01:55, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Grabois

Hi, could we please have your expert opinion here please: Talk:Grabois. Would be much appreciated. Thanks, Dr. Vogel (talk) 02:12, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Dojo

Hi Xezbeth. I saw this edit and was wondering if a consensus was reached to move the article back to Dōjō. There doesn't appear to be any discussion on the article's talk page. Anyway, if there was, then it might be helpful in resolving other similar page moves made by the same editor. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:17, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

I reverted the original move because the dab page was moved to "dojo" at the same time. The current move is undiscussed, but at least there aren't hundreds of broken links. It should probably be moved back, but if there's multiple controversial moves then a wider discussion would be better. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:03, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying. I'll post something at WT:MARTIAL to see what they think. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:43, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Watanabe

I just wanted to say, what you're doing with that article is very impressive. Dr. Vogel (talk) 17:27, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

About Seagram (disambiguation) - have I done that right?

Xezbeth, you're - like it or not - the "go-to person" for disambiguation pages. Was that one OK? Please let me know if it ain't, and tell me why. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:52, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

I moved the partial title matches to a see also section and updated the hatnote at Seagram. Everything else was fine. —Xezbeth (talk) 13:05, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Awesome work, Xezbeth. Thank you. I'll shortly be sending you - that ubiquitous item of tableware found in all good homes in Tasmania as far wide as Huonville to the Henty River - the Huon pine napkin ring barnstar of disambiguation excellence. Once I upload a picture of some of 'em. And after I've sent RFA thank-you spam to the editors that !voted in my RfA. Have I mentioned that Tasmania is not a fictional place? --Shirt58 (talk) 11:49, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

13 Years. Outstanding.

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Help with article review?

Hi,

I've created a redrafted article for Nextdoor at User:BC1278/sandbox/Nextdoor. Although I have experience as a Wikipedia editor (though at a level laughable compared to you), I have a conflict of interest here as a paid consultant to Nextdoor, so the redraft requires a thorough independent review. COI disclosures have been made on the article Talk page.

The current article is very poor, in my opinion, and my goal is to get it up to a "B" grade on this version, then keep working to get it to GA. If you look at the citations in my new proposed draft, you'll see that over the course of the past 10 years, this company has had multiple in-depth features in high-quality reliable sources such as The New York Times, Wired, The Atlantic, BuzzFeed News, PBS News Hours, NPR and Newsweek. And it's been written or broadcast about in hundreds of local-media reliable sources, only a sample of which are cited in the 50-source draft article. It warrants a much more thorough better written, better structured article than it has now.

I've looked at the history for this article because I was very puzzled why an app/website with tens of millions of users was so poor. I discovered that at least one editor has been removing content backed by reliable sources for years. The editor resurfaced when I posted the discussion and explanation about my proposal to Talk:Nextdoor#Request_for_Review. The editor expressed the POV that articles about internet companies, in general, are too long, as well as various other dubious arguments. Given the potential for fireworks, which I hate, I thought I should seek an incredibly experienced editor, such as yourself, to do the independent review.

I also opened an RfC vote about one section of the article ("Founder'), since it received some support even though it's been removed before.

Thanks in advance for considering this request to collaborate on a review. I say collaborate because I am sure you will have many suggestions as to how I can improved the draft and I expect I can learn a great deal from you.

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hatnote

Hi, if I were looking for a Japanese politician named Akio Sato but didn't know his birth year, I'd find the hatnotes quite useful, as they make it easier navigating from one homonym to another. —capmo (talk) 16:47, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

The Akio Sato disambiguation page was missing descriptions, which I have now added. There should be no reason to use hatnotes since the correct Akio Sato should be linked to in any given article, and a search for Akio Sato will bring up the dab page. —Xezbeth (talk) 20:37, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Your edits earlier this year and Akira Kurosawa

Much thanks for your edits on the Akira Kurosawa. Its become known to me recently that you have an interest in Japanese articles. Recently, I had some success to get the images in the Kurosawa article in good shape with the help of another editor with image experience here [4]. I was wondering if you, as an experienced editor, might be remotely interested in considering a co-nomination of the article with me at FAC for Kurosawa. JohnWickTwo (talk) 14:09, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

FAs are not something that I have any experience or interest in. I've never edited Kurosawa's article as far as I can remember, I was just fixing the hatnote. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:46, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

D/du Vernois

Thanks for correcting my mischaracterization of the "Verdy du (and Du) Vernois" redirs, which I can now see were improper however I cut it. Before I compound the error, can I pick on your expertise: is the proper surname von Verdy du Vernois, or just du Vernois? Also, I know that lowercase for the possessives are proper in running text, but in a Wikipedia redirect the first letter would be capitalized anyway (unless I jump through another hoop).

Related, I'm fussing about this because still unclear on the proper conventions for possessives at the start of a sentence, except the Dutch "van". I've see both lower and upper case "von" and "du" in authoritative sources at the start of sentences. I've seen Gaelic names start sentences with lowercase. And don't get me started on the De La (la?) Rive family... perhaps someone could issue a WP guideline for article text, if one doesn't exist? David Brooks (talk) 13:30, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Well, looking at the article properly, I think I might be wrong and you were right in the first place. Von doesn't appear to be considered part of the surname. I think I'll revert myself. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:11, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Formatting

Hello Xezbeth, just asking if you can change the formats for the birth and death dates on the Maiorana article to the consistent standard please? As it looks messy and I'm unsure which of the four to use. Also, if it's not the standard, the last use of the second reference in the article is placed within brackets, Theo Mandela (talk) 14:20, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for asking if you're busy Xezbeth, but when you have a second could you improve the format of the Maiorana surname article please? Because it's a small article and these and the surname template style are the only issues I have with it. It'd be a much appreciated help. And if you don't think you'll get time, could you suggest a user like yourself who deals with fixing and formatting of dab and surname articles please? Thanks, Theo Mandela (talk) 08:49, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Regrets

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I assume you undid the original message because you noticed what I'd done with Kimia? That content is not my problem, I was just fixing the hijacking of another article. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:24, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
That was the particular reason, I reverted my message (and then executed a comedy of errors).But the problem is that since you are a sysop (which comes with the autopatrolled bit), such creations are auto-marked as indexed stuff and not shown to a reviewer for tagging et al. WBGconverse 09:24, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

So what next? (instead of just reverting)

As far as I can see you've not suggested any ideas to Versalex on how to proceed. Is it impossible to do what they want, which is to include uses of 'Adelson' as given names? Is there no precedent for this, but instead the requirement that each mention has to have an article? I see the layout of Edel has given names, but all mentions have articles.

It just seems weird to skirt 3RR without trying to say "the explanation is you must have articles for each name or no go". I'm assuming that's your objection. Shenme (talk) 07:44, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

I saw their behaviour at Adel (name) and have no interest in engaging with them. They just need to stop adding non-notable people to name lists per WP:APOENTRIES. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:56, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Shenme! Indeed; Xezbeth doesn't seem to be a part of the solution. Nil and nay all the way. In fact, it's not impossible to be open-minded and reasonable. It's actually recommended by Wikipedia, and the citation function is there for a reason. Links to other pages aren't requisite, as encyclopedias are ever-growing and, considering that Wikipedia launched in 2001, I don't see how it's even possible for all information from the beginning of time until now to be here after only 17 years. I'm sure that's why hundreds of new pages are created every day. Nil and nay? Not today.

By the way, my "behavior" was inadvertent. I was brand-new to Wikipedia and had no idea how to use it. It was all quite over-whelming. I genuinely thought an academic and/or manager of sorts would contact me to confirm my credentials and references. Ha! The red wine wouldn't have helped.

Kind regards

Charles

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Lazard

Thanks for sorting out my edits on Template:Lazard & Template:Investment banks. These show up on todays list of templates with DAB links. I don't know what change made them appear there but they were DAB links to Lazard (disambiguation).— Rod talk 10:41, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

I was aware, I just wanted to draw your attention to what I was doing. A lot of the dab pages that appear in that list on a daily basis are the result of bad page moves, and the better solution is to simply revert the move rather than fix hundreds of links that ultimately won't need fixing. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:02, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

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Surnames

Hi, and thanks for sharing your thoughts on my Requested move. So this is kind of relatable: I’m wondering if someone would be willing to split the surname/people sections of two other pages into their own set indices, particularly the sections in Massone and Valentin (disambiguation)? Thanks in advance! 66.87.148.249 (talk) 19:07, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Will do. Massone is borderline not worth doing but it does no harm. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:43, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

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