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Peer review newsletter #1


Hello to all! I do not intend to write a regular peer review newsletter but there does occasionally come a time when those interested in contributing to peer review should be contacted, and now is one. I've mailed this out to everyone on the peer review volunteers list, and some editors that have contributed to past discussions. Apologies if I've left you off or contacted you and you didn't want it. Next time there is a newsletter / mass message it will be opt in (here), I'll talk about this below - but first:

  • THANK YOU! I want to thank you for your contributions and for volunteering on the list to help out at peer review. Thank you!
  • Peer review is useful! It's good to have an active peer review process. This is often the way that we help new or developing editors understand our ways, and improve the quality of their editing - so it fills an important and necessary gap between the teahouse (kindly introduction to our Wikiways) and GA and FA reviews (specific standards uphelp according to a set of quality criteria). And we should try and improve this process where possible (automate, simplify) so it can be used and maintained easily.


It can get quite lonely tinkering with peer review...
With a bit of effort we can renovate the place to look like this!

Update #1: the peer review volunteers list is changing

The list is here in case you've forgotten: WP:PRV. Kadane has kindly offered to create a bot that will ping editors on the volunteers list with unanswered reviews in their chosen subject areas every so often. You can choose the time interval by changing the "contact" parameter. Options are "never", "monthly", "quarterly", "halfyearly", and "annually". For example:

  • {{PRV|JohnSmith|History of engineering|contact=monthly}} - if placed in the "History" section, JohnSmith will receive an automatic update every month about unanswered peer reviews relating to history.
  • {{PRV|JaneSmith|Mesopotamian geography, Norwegian fjords|contact=annually}} - if placed in the "Geography" section, JaneSmith will receive an automatic update every yearly about unanswered peer reviews in the geography area.

We can at this stage only use the broad peer review section titles to guide what reviews you'd like, but that's better than nothing! You can also set an interest in multiple separate subject areas that will be updated at different times.

Update #2: a (lean) WikiProject Peer review

I don't think we need a WikiProject with a giant bureaucracy nor all sorts of whiz-bang features. However over the last few years I've found there are times when it would have been useful to have a list of editors that would like to contribute to discussions about the peer review process (e.g. instructions, layout, automation, simplification etc.). Also, it can get kind of lonely on the talk page as I am (correct me if I'm wrong) the only regular contributor, with most editors moving on after 6 - 12 months.

So, I've decided to create "WikiProject Peer review". If you'd like to contribute to the WikiProject, or make yourself available for future newsletters or contact, please add yourself to the list of members.

Update #3: advertising

We plan to do some advertising of peer review, to let editors know about it and how to volunteer to help, at a couple of different venues (Signpost, Village pump, Teahouse etc.) - but have been waiting until we get this bot + WikiProject set up so we have a way to help interested editors make more enduring contributions. So consider yourself forewarned!

And... that's it!

I wish you all well on your Wikivoyages, Tom (LT) (talk) 00:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)


Rexxx, are you following this? Time for the Defender of the Data to chip in, perhaps? Johnbod (talk) 14:57, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

I haven't been following it, John, so thanks for the heads-up. There's not much to defend really; we still have to exclude by default any Wikidata statement that's only sourced to some Wikipedia or other. I'm generally quite sympathetic to concerns about lack of sourcing in Wikidata (still running at around 40%, I think) and I'm happy to see discussions about how to improve that, or at least circumvent the issues. --RexxS (talk) 16:07, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello RexxS, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!


As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal
Project updates
  • ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
  • There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
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Keeping the hominy

Hey, Rexx - there’s a silly thread over at AN/I (Ad hominem at homony) with a multiple image display - you can’t miss it. I tried to fix the images into neat rows but my fix didn’t go as planned. I can’t see squat on this iPad. Can you take a look at it, and maybe fix it so the rows fit inside the margins of the page and the images are closer to the same size? Atsme✍🏻📧 03:03, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

@Atsme: Sorry, I've been out all day at [] so I didn't get a chance to see the images until just. Looks like somebody has tidied them up now. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 22:03, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 17 – 29 October 2018

Facto Post – Issue 17 – 29 October 2018
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Wikidata imaged

Around 2.7 million Wikidata items have an illustrative image. These files, you might say, are Wikimedia's stock images, and if the number is large, it is still only 5% or so of items that have one. All such images are taken from Wikimedia Commons, which has 50 million media files. One key issue is how to expand the stock.

Indeed, there is a tool. WD-FIST exploits the fact that each Wikipedia is differently illustrated, mostly with images from Commons but also with fair use images. An item that has sitelinks but no illustrative image can be tested to see if the linked wikis have a suitable one. This works well for a volunteer who wants to add images at a reasonable scale, and a small amount of SPARQL knowledge goes a long way in producing checklists.

Gran Teatro, Cáceres, Spain, at night

It should be noted, though, that there are currently 53 Wikidata properties that link to Commons, of which P18 for the basic image is just one. WD-FIST prompts the user to add signatures, plaques, pictures of graves and so on. There are a couple of hundred monograms, mostly of historical figures, and this query allows you to view all of them. commons:Category:Monograms and its subcategories provide rich scope for adding more.

And so it is generally. The list of properties linking to Commons does contain a few that concern video and audio files, and rather more for maps. But it contains gems such as P3451 for "nighttime view". Over 1000 of those on Wikidata, but as for so much else, there could be yet more.

Go on. Today is Wikidata's birthday. An illustrative image is always an acceptable gift, so why not add one? You can follow these easy steps: (i) log in at [], (ii) paste the Petscan ID 6263583 into [] and click run, and (iii) just add cake.

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Request your opinion on heat not burn page

Hi RexxS. A couple of weeks ago you shared some quick insights on the heat not burn talk page, and I hope you'd be willing to come back and provide an independent opinion on a couple of sticking points still going on there now. The discussion has stalled for the past week, and maybe your fresh take on this and your experience with WikiProject Med’s customs/requirements will help take the article out of its current, sorry state.

In this discussion, a COI tag and undue weight tag that have been already removed several times by other editors are repeatedly being reapplied for the sole reason that my input has been taken into consideration. You've posted once already on this, but the conversation has since stalled without resolution. As you can see across the talk page, my suggestions have already been thoroughly discussed and verified before being accepted: to be honest, I’m at a bit of a loss as to what we’re supposed to do next (except, of course, not provide input, but then that defeats the purpose of asking COI editors to request edits in the first place).

The second topic I would appreciate your opinion on is the increased emphasis in this article over the past few days on pyrolysis, smoke, and charring. This has resulted in a renaming of the article, several additions of primary source research references, and an image of a charred pizza to emphasize the point. I do think these edits/comments are made in good faith, but also can’t help feel they were made in part to retaliate for my continued preference for the term aerosol rather than smoke (it’s only my own feeling. Your opinion is, again, welcome). Thank you, Sarah at PMI (talk) 09:06, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Fetching the Commons sitelink

Hi RexxS. I've been working on {{Commons category/sandbox}} to try to improve its connection with Wikidata (following up on the RfC). It would be quite useful to have a Lua function that fetches the Commons category sitelink either from the linked Wikidata entry or from topic's main category (P910), falling back to Commons category (P373) where there is no sitelink (or the only commons sitelink is to a gallery not a category). I think I can do that in an analogous way to the commons infobox sitelinks, using the "getSiteLink" function from Module:Wikidata plus a modified version of getQid from Module:WikidataIB that uses P910 rather than P301, but maybe you could write this in a neater way in a single Lua function? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:42, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mike Peel: WikidataIB reads the sitelink from any wiki, with the bonus that it doesn't read the entire entity, so is cheaper and doesn't mess up watchlists.
For flag (Q14660):
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660}} → Flag
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660 |enwiki}} → Flag
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660 |wiki=enwiki}} → Flag
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660 |wiki=elwikiquote}} → Σημαία
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660 |wiki=commonswiki}} → Flag
I've written what I think is what you asked for, except it doesn't discriminate between galleries and categories. I really would need some examples of where you want fallbacks, otherwise I'm just guessing.
For flag (Q14660), A Rake's Progress (Q300536):
  • Gallery: {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q14660}} → Flag
  • Category: {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q300536}} → Category:A Rake's Progress
  • The code just returns plain text or nothing. As there is always only one sitelink, it's simple to create whatever link you need within a template (Template:If then show may be useful). Let me know what needs changing. --RexxS (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! For the category item example, Hieronymus Bosch (Q130531) gives "Jheronimus Bosch" - which is good as the default. Ideally there would then also be an option "onlycategories" or something like that, so that it can return "Category:Hieronymus Bosch". Potentially this could be done by looking to see if the sitelink starts with "Category:", and only returning it if it does (with a fallback to P373 otherwise, or just returning blank if it can only find a gallery item). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:54, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
BTW, if P373 is used, it needs to be prefixed by "Category:", please. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:58, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: I've made one change to implement |onlycat= on the first sitelink:
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q130531}} → Jheronimus Bosch
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q130531 |onlycat=y}} → Category:Hieronymus Bosch
Is that enough? or might some of the fallbacks return galleries as well? --RexxS (talk) 21:09, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
That's perfect, thanks! If a category item or P373 returns a gallery, then that's a data issue that would need to be fixed, so I don't think that needs handling here. It's implemented in {{Commons category/sandbox}} now - I'll raise that for discussion and see if anyone can find any issues. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:14, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: Okay. I forgot to mention: you don't need to supply a qid if you're on the page in question; and |onlycategories= is an alias for |onlycat=. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 21:18, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Testing at 1999 FIFA Confederations Cup gives "Lua error in Module:WikidataIB/sandbox at line 421: attempt to index local 'sitelink' (a nil value).|Lua error in Module:WikidataIB/sandbox at line 421: attempt to index local 'sitelink' (a nil value).]" I guess because the item doesn't have a sitelink? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:12, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: yup – you can't extract the first nine characters of something that's nil. Fixed now. --RexxS (talk) 22:23, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


I keep forgetting what subpages I have so I was wondering if there's a shortcut or easier way to find them? I can remember User:Atsme/Banners, (it also comes up in a list when I enter User:Atsme/ in the search bar), but I was wanting to add more photos to my carousel and can't remember the page name to add them. Atsme✍🏻📧 04:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

@Atsme: Special:PrefixIndex/User:Atsme/. Special:AllPages works similarly but goes on and on and on... You can also transclude either of them--though there is some natural limit--if you would prefer not to go the page to see. (That code is {{Special:PrefixIndex/User:Atsme/}}.) --Izno (talk) 05:26, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Kewl...thank you, Izno - I can use that info in the future. Unfortunately, I did not see the carousel. I'll try the editor interaction tool to locate the info Rex gave me earlier. It might be a subpage of my TP. Atsme✍🏻📧 05:37, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Izno - there also a link near the bottom of everybody's contributions page. Your carousel, Atsme, is at Module:Carousel/Atsme. All the individual sets of images are at subpages of the main module. Have fun! --RexxS (talk) 14:20, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Thx Rex - I found it earlier via the editor interaction tool. 😁 You’d think by now I would know this stuff but learning WP is an infinite task and for me, it’s more like Groundhog Day
Atsme, I usually just click on 'Page information' in the tool bar (LHS), then on 'Number of subpages of this page', which opens Special:All pages with prefix (whatever page you started from). It is three clicks, but requires no memorising of obscure stuff, just that it is accessible through one of the sidebar links. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 11:36, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Logged all the good advice in my Notes with keywords I can't possibly forget. Thank you ALL!!! Now all I need is more time. ⏳ Atsme✍🏻📧 16:10, 16 November 2018 (UTC)