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DYK nom?

Hello, Pgallert! Do you have time to do another DYK nom? It is George Bentham (singer), and the creators are User:Jack1956 and me. A possible hook might be:

...that after a decade-long opera and concert career, George Bentham originated the leading role of Alexis in The Sorcerer (1877), which proved to be his last performing engagement."

How's that? Note that the main source of the article is Kurt Gänzl's blog, but although it is a blog, Gänzl is one of the most important musical theatre writers in the world. See his bio. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:54, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ssilvers, nice to hear from you again! I'll certainly try. Regarding the wording of the hook, and forgive my lack of education, does 'creating/originating the role' mean anything more than being the first to perform it? I think the duplication of the word 'role' is not ideal, and maybe the situation can be expressed differently? Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 15:39, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! I fixed the duplication of the word "role". The role creator or originator is the first person to play the role, usually in the original production. I think the hook is interesting, because (1) Bentham was so disappointed that he abruptly ended his career; (2) The Sorcerer was the first full-length Gilbert and Sullivan opera that is still performed today, 141 years later, so its stars are of interest in musical theatre history, because without Gilbert and Sullivan, musical theatre would not have evolved as it did. Can you suggest any further changes to the hook? -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:50, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ssilvers! No doubt it is an interesting hook, I just thought I might have missed something, like if he converted his role from prose to play, or performed any other creative task on it. But wouldn't then simply ", which proved to be his last" be more elegant? --Pgallert (talk) 08:48, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
No, I don't think the clause is clear without a noun. It proved to be his last role, part, or engagement. Feel free to choose either "performing engagement" or "role". One could say "part", but that would not be crystal clear to non-theatregoers, I think. Or, it could be:

...that after a decade-long opera and concert career, George Bentham originated the leading role of Alexis in The Sorcerer (1877); he then stopped performing."

Feel free to pick one, and then please proceed. -- Ssilvers (talk) 09:12, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

I nominated it as listed on top here (Cause I think a semicolon to separate what could be two sentences, is not allowed... rulezzz). See Template:Did you know nominations/George Bentham (singer). Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 17:23, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:16, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for George Bentham (singer)

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 4 May 2018 (UTC)