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January 26 1
January 28 1
February 1 1
February 8 1
February 24 1
February 26 2 1
February 27 2
March 1 1
March 3 2 1
March 4 1
March 5 3 1
March 6 2
March 9 2 2
March 11 2
March 12 4 1
March 13 1
March 14 2 1
March 15 8
March 17 3 2
March 18 3
March 19 7 2
March 20 9 5
March 21 5 4
March 22 6 5
March 23 6 2
March 24 13 9
March 25 4
March 26 8 6
March 27 12 6
March 28 5 4
March 29 6 5
March 30 8 5
March 31 3 2
April 1 9 6
April 2 14 10
April 3 6 5
April 4 6 3
April 5 8 5
April 6 7 5
April 7 8 1
April 8 13 8
April 9 14 5
April 10 8 5
April 11 8 4
April 12 7 3
April 13 7 2
April 14 5 3
April 15 9 4
April 16 8 2
April 17 5 2
April 18 5 1
April 19 5
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Instructions for nominators

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
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To nominate an article

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.

Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

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  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
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How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

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Frequently asked questions


This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

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Instructions for other editors

How to promote an accepted hook

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
  • Add a link to the nomination subpage at Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed to help in tracking removals.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.


Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on January 7

Ancient Beringian

  • that the Ancient Beringian are the first population of Paleo-Indians, which migrated from Siberia across Beringia and into Alaska during the lithic stage approximately twenty thousand years ago?

Created by IQ125 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:04, 7 January 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough, neutral, cited (but see note after this line), no obvious copyvios (paraphrasing to be checked after cites are improved, again see note). Hook is on the border of being too long and should probably be cut down. There's about three distinct facts in there, if not more. A good interesting hook usually has at most two facts within it, usually one. The biggest problem here is the inline citations. Throwing seven inline cites on every sentence isn't particularly informative about where the information is coming from. Please improve the inline citations so that each sentence is cited only to the reference (or references) being used to support it. After that, I'll check for close paraphrasing and double-check that all of this is verified. ~ Rob13Talk 09:06, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Note: article has been proposed to be merged into another article; nomination is on hold until the merger proposal has been closed. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:44, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
I think "Beringia" and "lithic stage" need explanation, perhaps wikilinks, and the latter is also a proper name and needs a capital. HLHJ (talk) 00:09, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 26

Joan Benesh

  • ... that ballerina Joan Benesh married the man who worked out a way to record her dances?
  • ALT1 ... that ballerina Joan Benesh married the man who worked out a way to notate her dances?

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk). Self-nominated at 23:32, 2 February 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is long enough, new enough, and passes core content policies. However, the hook is a bit confusing. In this case, record means "record into a notation system." But I think it will be read, "record onto film'". @Andrew Davidson: could you reword the hook a bit so that it is more clear? I think its is almost a really good hook. Smmurphy(Talk) 07:43, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
  • @Smmurphy: Thanks for the review. I have proposed ALT1 above which uses a more precise verb. (per OED, "notate, v. – to set down or record using a system of notation"). Andrew D. (talk) 12:04, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Great. I'll approve both, but prefer Alt1 as "notate" just seems a bit more clear to me. Smmurphy(Talk) 14:50, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Returned from prep per discussion at WT:DYK. Joan and her husband co-invented the notation according to the article and sources. I think a different hook is needed. Yoninah (talk) 17:09, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I maintain that ALT1 is fine. The source above states, "He offered to make a system of signs to help her ... While it was Rudolf who devised these marks, it was Joan Benesh who, as a choreographer and dancer, knew exactly what function the marks had to have." So, their roles were complementary; she had the dancing expertise and requirement and he devised the notation. Other sources state "Rudolf Benesh, who invented Benesh Movement Notation and perfected it with the help of his wife..." ; "When Rudolf Benesh invented the notation in 1947"; "The invention of BMN is commonly attributed to Rudolf Benesh, with his wife Joan relegated to a supporting role in the story.... Andrew D. (talk) 22:42, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Then the article is wrong. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:19, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
It states: "... was a ballet dancer who, with her husband Rudolf, invented the Benesh Movement Notation ..." i.e. she invented it with her husband. She didn't marry the man who invented the system, she married the man with whom she defined the system. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:35, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Rudolf devised the initial notation in 1947. They married in 1949. The system was not fully developed until 1955/6 when the Royal Ballet adopted it and An Introduction to Benesh Dance Notation was published. The latter work was credited to Rudolf and Joan Benesh because they had developed and written it together. The point is that the initial notation is not the same as the full fledged formal system which took years to develop. It's that 1% inspiration 99% perspiration issue. Andrew D. (talk) 00:10, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg We seem to be stuck. Please could a ballet expert like Smerus or Tim Riley comment on the dispute to help us forward. Andrew D. (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

I am bound to disclaim the label "ballet expert". My attendance at three ballet-related editathons at the Royal Opera House was as an experienced WP editor who could help new editors with the nuts and bolts of creating and editing articles. I was emphatically not there as any kind of expert on ballet. I have heard of the Benesh notation, and that's about as far as my knowledge of this topic goes. So, apologies. Tim riley talk 15:30, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Apologies, although I am usually only too happy to allow myself to be called an expert, my two left feet and ignorance of any ballet (save for those of Prokofiev) utterly disqualify me in this sphere.--Smerus (talk) 08:23, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Andrew Davidson, Yoninah, & The Rambling Man, how about:
ALT2: ... that ballerina Joan Benesh married the man with whom she worked out a way to notate her dances? --Usernameunique (talk) 23:21, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
  • No, ALT2 is not quite right. See Rudolf Benesh which explains, "She was having difficulty with her attempts to write and then decipher dance steps. He then devised a dance notation system while at work in the office. He wrote some lines to represent a movement of someone at a desk, then asked someone else to decipher them. The system evolved in the period 1947 to 1955." So, she already had a method of notation but it was not working well. He devised a better method for her and they then developed and formalised it together. Let's try ALT3, which tries to convey the incremental nature of their work. Andrew D. (talk) 07:17, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
  • ALT3 ... that ballerina Joan Benesh married the man who suggested a better way of notating her dances?
Symbol question.svg Willing to look. ALT3 seems fine, but I'd include a link to Benesh notation, to indicate that it isn't their private thing, but THE notation. Could you please place refs at the ends of paragraphs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 28

Emil Fröschels

Created/expanded by Robert K S (talk). Self-nominated at 05:46, 28 January 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article contains "suspended" word instead of "stripped of" as used here. These are two different terms. And the fact that he was a founder of the field of speech therapy, is not in the reference, it says he was founder and director of speech and voice clinics and He founded and served as president of the New York Society for Speech and Voice Therapy 1947-1972.

The article is new and the prose is enough, however the hook needs to be revisited and recreated to meet the guidelines.  MehrajMir (talk) 15:26, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

I think the article is fairly clear that he "lost his venia legendi (status as a lecturer)", i.e., was dehabilitated, i.e., stripped of his lecturer status. It seems a little strange to get hung up on the word "suspended" which comes earlier in the sentence and is used to refer to his position, not his habilitation (the former being a job, the latter being more like a license). Moreover, the Nazis were not going to un-suspend Fröschels. In point of fact he had to flee the country for his life in 1939. Robert K S (talk) 03:55, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg As per WP:DYK, I'm unable to get the current hook verified from those inline references. Therefore I'm turning the review over to a new reviewer for any possible approval soon.  MehrajMir (talk) 06:41, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
I think these are the two most significant references: [1] (German) [2] (English). Robert K S (talk) 07:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
I am ready to review. Interesting life, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. - For the hook fact: the term logopedics appears only in the lead and the sentence about the founding in 1924. Can you clarify in the article, with source(s), how that constitutes what the hook says? - Or find another hook? - How do you feel about an infobox? - I think that "ear clinic" is not a common word in English, - perhaps say Ohrenklinik once, explain, and then use a more English term? If "ear clinic" the capitalization should be consistent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing. Can you propose a different hook? As for your proposed changes for the article, I think you should go ahead and make them. I don't know much more about the subject than what is in the article. I do know, from a book I am translating, that his co-workers found his clinical office empty the day of the Anschluss. Surprise, surprise. Anyway, I am not at all married to the hook and if you can modify it in a way that clears any hurdles I beg you to go ahead and do so. Thanks! Robert K S (talk) 07:43, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, - it's not so much the Anschluss thing, but the "a founder of the field of speech therapy" that I think could be clearer in the article, and you can do it better than I could. I can take care of "ear clinic" and infobox, but only later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I would like you to propose a change in the hook that satisfies the applicable standard, if you could. I can see that calling a person a "founder" of a field is a bit of a subjective thing; one always has predecessors even if they did not strike upon the same ideas and implementations. To that extent, the language of the statement translated from the German Wikipedia counterpart article, even if correct from the perspective of its original author, may never be satisfactorily sourceable. As for "ear clinic", today you would go to an ENT clinic, but back then they didn't include the nose and throat in the discipline. If you don't like "ear clinic" you could just delete it and go with otiological clinic, as the article already specifies parenthetically. Robert K S (talk) 19:23, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Understand, I guess.
Symbol voting keep.svg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't think it's going to pass muster with the editors at DYK and administrators who want thoroughly sourced facts. The claim in the lead, Together with Karl Cornelius Rothe, he is considered the founder of speech therapy, is not sourced. Under "Work" it says, Fröschels is next to Hermann Gutzmann Sr. as a pioneer of modern language research and founder of speech therapy, which is also unsourced. Don't these statements contradict one another? The third paragraph under "Life" needs at least one citation, per Rule D2, and the last half of the first paragraph under "Life" could also use a citation. Where did you get all this information?
  • Regarding the hook, perhaps you could say something about him forming the IALP, or adding something from footnote 2 to introduce readers to the terms "logopedics" and "phoniatrics". After you address the above citations, I could help you formulate a hook. Yoninah (talk) 23:32, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg It has been just about three weeks, and the issues raised above have not been addressed, and there have been no further comments past a discussion on the nominator's talk page, which hasn't been posted to since February 19. I don't know whether Afernand74, who did work on the article's refs after it was posted, might be able to help out here with additional sourcing or not. If not, the article may not be able to run at DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:15, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svgBlueMoonset, Yoninah: I added a reference to support the hook. Not my field of expertise though. An alternative wording could be "internationally recognized for his pioneering work on speech therapy?" Hope this helps. Afernand74 (talk) 09:59, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks for your help, Afernand74. Typically, at DYK, the person who adds the source is not the person to pass the nomination; it needs another set of eyes to confirm this, so I'll let Yoninah confirm whether this and/or the suggested rewording addresses the issues raised. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Looking more closely at the article, there's a lot of information here that isn't sourced; where did you find all this? Each claim should be cited. I think the sweeping statements assigning him prominence should be removed from the article altogether. I fixed the last sentence in the lead to say what he did do. Yoninah (talk) 22:21, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the above comments, I cannot add anything more to this article, which was a translation from the German Wikipedia. In my opinion the article is in as good shape as any translated article posted to DYK and is ready for posting. A DYK article is not intended to be a Good Article. To the contrary, DYK posting is designed not only as trivia to interest Main Page readers but as a way of attracting editors to new articles that could use improvement. I don't think there are any significant problems with sourcing in the article overall. Yoninah does have concerns with language and DYK visitors to the article can edit the article to improve it. The article should be promoted to DYK status or not, but I think it would be a shame to exclude it on the basis that it's not, by some standards, in perfect shape yet, because rewarding perfect articles is not the point of DYK. Robert K S (talk) 19:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 1

Wang Bingzhang (general)

Wang Bingzhang
Wang Bingzhang

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 19:44, 2 February 2018 (UTC).

  • On it.

    Symbol question.svg New enough; long enough [~4.8k elig. chars.]; Earwig finds no copyvio; probably about as well-sourced as possible in English and well written without any of the POVy tone situations like this lend themselves to; I always prefer {{chinese}} infoboxes (allows Wade, &c., more easily and avoids the malformatted semicolons of {{zh}}) and have started adding External links to the Baidu Baike and articles on Chinese topics, but I'll just leave that for Zanhe to consider since we were having some issues earlier. Apologies on my end, and happy Spring Festival. =) 

    QPQ still needed.

    As far as the hook, it all checks out except for the without being charged of a crime part. The People's Daily explicitly accuses him of involvement in the Lin Biao conspiracy; Phoenix News just says he was held, using his daughter as its source; China's Space Program similarly just says he was arrested, although not on the linked page, so I might be missing something there. Now, they didn't prosecute him when he got out (saw that) but is there one of the sources that explicitly says that he was never charged with a crime while being held? I'd imagine something like "sedition", "treason", &c. related to Mao's fears about the clique around Lin Biao could easily have been made or mooted, even though they never got the evidence to finalize the sentence with a judge. If I didn't miss something (easily possible: just explain if I'm missing something from the Chinese sources) and no one came out and said that, you can probably still make this work with a little rephrasing about "declining to prosecute" or sth.

    The pic has a Chinese license but apparently (?) needs a separate American one to be used freely, since Wikipedia's based in the US. — LlywelynII 09:22, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for pointing out the error in the hook. It should read "without being convicted of a crime", but I got careless after spending hours poring over the sources. So here's ALT1:
  • ALT1 ... that Lt. Gen. Wang Bingzhang (pictured), head of China's ballistic missile and satellite programs, was imprisoned for ten years without being convicted of a crime?
I've added the Chinese infobox module to the infobox. I prefer the Chinese infobox too, but sometimes get lazy :).
Regarding the image, there have been complex discussions about the URAA at the Commons, but the current situation is that URAA images are ok for the commons, which means ok for DYK (see official position of the Wikimedia Foundation and community decision).
QPQ has been added.
No worries about the past issues. New year, new beginning :) -Zanhe (talk) 20:59, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed; original reviewer has not returned in nearly eight weeks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:16, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The issues were QPQ needed (now provided), URAA license (per link Zanhe provided, Wikimedia stance is to keep such content), and the semantics of the hook. Zanhe, is the NDSTC the same thing as the Ministry of National Defense. If so, the hook checks out (article says Bingzhang was the deputy director of the Ministry of National Defense, but became the acting director of the NDSTC), but this should be clarified where the article links to the Ministry of National Defense. --Usernameunique (talk) 23:53, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Usernameunique: the NDSTC (unfortunately no article yet) was in charge of China's strategic weapons programs and commanded vast resources (see China's Techno-warriors). It was nominally a division of the Defence Ministry, but reported directly to the Central Military Commission. As acting head of the NDSTC, Wang was in charge of China's nuclear tests, strategic missiles, and satellites. -Zanhe (talk) 18:20, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
How about this? ALT2 "... that Lt. Gen. Wang Bingzhang (pictured) was purged in 1971 due to the "Lin Biao incident"?" --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
That works too, but gives no indication of the significance of Wang's positions. -Zanhe (talk) 18:23, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 8

Sainte-Anne Hospital Center

Sainte-Anne hospital in a 1672 site plan
Sainte-Anne hospital in a 1672 site plan
  • ... that Sainte-Anne Hospital Center, which in the 17th century was a farm worked by insane patients, is today a modern hospital in Paris specializing in psychiatry, neurology, neurosurgery, neuroimaging, and addiction?

Created by Robert K S (talk). Self-nominated at 07:26, 8 February 2018 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Substantial article, but would need many more inline citations. The rule of thumb says one inline citation per paragraph. I also wonder about the name, which is a mixture of French and English. We should not invent names, - is there an English source for this name? If not, perhaps better stick with the French. Should Centre be capital? - I like the original hook much better, referring to the unique history. I delinked Paris, - current capitals and countries are typically not linked. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
There is no official English rendering of the name of this hospital. In most of the English-language literature it is referred to as "Sainte-Anne Hospital" but that is with reference to the institution as it existed in the 1950s, e.g., before it took on its modern name including the word "Center". In the French version of the name, Centre would not be capitalized unless at the start of a sentence (similar to rue, which is always rendered capitalized in English but never in French). To switch from "Sainte-Anne" to "Saint Anne" or "St. Anne" would I believe be one step too far as it would corrupt the proper-noun portion of the name of the institution. Given all of the above I believe that "Sainte-Anne Hospital Center" should be the preferred way to refer to the present-day incarnation of the institution in English. (Google shows many usages of this rendering of the name. [3]) Robert K S (talk) 19:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Taken, now refs please ;) - The image is licensed but doesn't show too well in that size. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Robert K S, Gerda Arendt, it's been a month and a half since this was nominated and the above posts made. Where do the article and nomination currently stand? BlueMoonset (talk) 03:15, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
In my opinion the article is in as good shape as any translated article posted to DYK and is ready for posting. A DYK article is not intended to be a Good Article. To the contrary, DYK posting is designed not only as trivia to interest Main Page readers but as a way of attracting editors to new articles that could use improvement. I don't think there are any significant problems with sourcing in the article overall; there are plenty of references and at most what Gerda seems to want is to have the sources duplicated as footnotes all over the page. That's fine, it can be done, but I will not be expending the work to do it just to have this article become a DYK article, because that is busywork. Advance the article to DYK status or don't, but don't exclude it on the basis that it's not, by some standards, in perfect shape yet, because rewarding perfect articles is not the point of DYK. Robert K S (talk) 18:53, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Sadly, it's not so much your opinion that counts but DYK rules, and they request inline citations. My suggestion: write a short article with such referencing on something related, - a doctor, an architect, find something, - and mention the hospital in a hook for that something. - I had the same situation - translated, no inline citations - with my second article, Siegfried Palm, in 2009. I didn't rest until I had it referenced ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Gerda may want to review DYK eligibility criteria, which does not require inline citations for every single statement in the article, but rather, only that the facts in the hook be so cited. Robert K S (talk) 19:05, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
It says there that we have Supplementary guidelines, which request under D2: "The article in general should use inline, cited sources. A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the lead, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize other cited content." Please also see D3 and further. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Cool. "Should" is a great word. But it doesn't mean "must, in order to qualify for DYK promotion". Let's not forget the purposes of DYK, which are not the same as Good Article or Featured Article. Robert K S (talk) 20:01, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Robert K S, your idea of what makes a DYK article does not jibe with the actual DYK criteria, as reviewers have been trying to tell you in this nomination and elsewhere. This isn't even close to GA quality, so I'm not sure why you're invoking that process here, unless it's that becoming a GA is an alternative path to qualify for DYK. The article has a dearth of inline source citations; indeed, it is so sparsely cited (only four of nineteen paragraphs have citations) that no knowledgeable DYK reviewer would pass it. (I've just added a template to the article indicating that more citations are needed.) BlueMoonset (talk) 22:20, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Relax. This isn't personal. Robert K S (talk) 14:54, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg It has been another seven days without any further edits to the article to improve the inline source citations as required for DYK. Marking nomination for closure as unsuccessful, though if the needed citations are added before this closes, the review can continue. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:43, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24

An Wasserflüssen Babylon

Copy of Reincken's work by Bach
Copy of Reincken's work by Bach
  • Reviewed: to come Hans Klumbach
  • Comment: ..., which is one of two of his oldest manuscripts, found again in 2005/06[5] - there's plenty of news. We don't see a thing on the image but is RARE ;) - We just had Innocent Victims where we also didn't see a thing.

Converted from a redirect by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:22, 3 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Most everything looks good (long enough, timing fits, no copyvio, neutral, interesting hook--and cool image to go with!), just needs a QPQ and then(ETA: done!) ideally an update of the references in the entry to confirm the hook? Given image, it seems like they almost certainly exist; but at the moment that specific sentence has a "not in citation given" flag that's probably worth reconciling before moving the DYK forward. Innisfree987 (talk) 19:20, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
It took me a while to read the article ;) - When I nominated, it was a short little thing. I managed to review. What's not in the citation seems to be the exact year, but "as a boy" should be sourced. Perhaps you can tell the two experts what you like and what not, better than I could? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for having a look Gerda Arendt! Indeed this is well outside my own expertise; I just clicked through to the link to check, and as best I can tell, I don't see the bit about copying the manuscript in those Programme Notes? I mean obviously he did or you wouldn't have an image of it, but would you mind either pointing out to me the part that says that, which I'm just misunderstanding/overlooking (highly likely), or suggest a different source we can use as the reference, just so we can remove that flag? I wouldn't be concerned except for it being the hook. Thanks! Innisfree987 (talk) 22:06, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I found this but don't know what the experts will think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I've just found a book ref as well. Mathsci and Francis Schonken, does one or both of these seem reliable to you? Any other comments before the DYK goes forward? Thanks for having a look! Innisfree987 (talk) 22:32, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg the article is unstable, and needs considerable work. The issue mentioned above was addressed by me on the talk page, Talk:An Wasserflüssen Babylon#Reincken/Bach stories involving "An Wasserflüssen Babylon", "1700" topic. Seems nor Gerda, nor anyone else, took the time to even look at it. All in all the article is a hack job (translated from German Wikipedia without adding proper references). The German Wikipedia article no longer carries "nach den Vorgaben Martin Bucers" (while unprovable by reliable sources) yet that phrase is still adopted in the English version without a source in sight that confirms it. Etc. – I could still go on for considerable time, but prefer to devote that to improving the article. --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback; yes by all means, focus on the entry as you wish! WP:VOLUNTEER and whatnot. Innisfree987 (talk) 18:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Francis Schonken's decision to remove any mention of Gerda's DYK hook in the lead was not helpful. Mathsci (talk) 22:09, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Never mind, the hook doesn't have to be in the lead. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
It was not in the main body. I have all the source material in the reference. Mathsci (talk) 22:57, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Re. "It was not in the main body" – incorrect, it has always been in the main body, in every version I've seen. --Francis Schonken (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Re. "... Francis Schonken's decision to remove any mention of Gerda's DYK hook in the lead ..." – incorrect, I didn't remove any mention of the hook from the lead. I take offence of Gerda Arendt's "Never mind" in their response to the false accusation: sort of shows they didn't check, though their "the hook doesn't have to be in the lead" is of course correct. --Francis Schonken (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
The source proposed above for the hook ( doesn't really cover the hook. I discussed a better source on the article's talk page. For me, this confirms once more that people write here without really checking. Over-all the situation has hardly improved. Again, I could write a lot about aspects where the current version of the article fails, but prefer to improve rather than to write reams of text here. As for this DYK, with all these problems: hardly a good idea, so I continue to oppose until problems are really addressed. --Francis Schonken (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Noted and agreed again that spending your time improving the entry sounds like a wise choice. Innisfree987 (talk) 18:25, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
The suggestions here seem to be purely procedural. Consensus so far indicates that the article is fair at the moment. There will always be new perspectives on the content: since the topic concerns the Reformation—a very wide-ranging topic—that will always be the case. Looking at other Lutheran Hymns, the article here seems to be in a much better state than most articles of this kind. Vater unser im Himmelreich is comparable. Only a few articles on Lutheran articles to have been created at the moment to judge by Category:Lutheran_hymns. Mathsci (talk) 21:33, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Anyhow, with the new Beißwenger content ([6]), the hook as written can not be maintained. --Francis Schonken (talk) 07:28, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
The DYK hook still seems to be going smoothly, despite recent edits. On articles like Lutheran hymns, things go slowly by consensus. For example I created the "Hymn tune" on Vorbis-lilypond, choosing my own tempo and a cor anglais as instrument. I used that because soft reeds are usual registrations for this type of piece (as mentioned by organists like Stinson). It's not perfect, but OK for the moment. Mathsci (talk) 11:12, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
For clarity, "... which Bach copied as a boy ..." in the current hook proposal can not be said in Wikipedia's voice while at least one prominent Bach scholar (Beißwenger) doubts the contention (considers it at least unproven): what can not be said in Wikipedia's voice is unsuitable for a DYK hook (i.e. intended to be published on Wikipedia's mainspace). --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I think that there are serious difficulties for two of the sources. Several Bach scholars, including some cited in reliable secondary sources, have given an informal description of the recent discoveries of Maul & Wollny. They certainly have given a reasonable informal account for a general readership. On the other hand the Bärenreiter Facsimile of 2006 and the encyclopedic tome "The Routledge Research Companion to Johann Sebastian Bach" by 2017 are intended for specialists, way beyond the competence of wikipedia: the first reference—which is only viewable in a non-borrowable music reference library—is at a graduate level; and the same is true of the Research Companion, "aimed at masters and doctoral students" and featuring a galaxy of specially chosen Bach scholars from all over the world. That level of expertise—e.g. deciding whether the handwriting of a relative can be identified with certainty—seems too technical for both sources; where something is too subtle, too ambiguous or just undecidable, only an informal "general readership" description can be given.
What Gerda suggested in the hook—perhaps with "youth" instead of "boy"—is appropriate. If a wikipedia article tries to be too technical, it cannot reasonably speak in "wikipedia's voice", whether the language is that of German, American/British or Esperanto (one of the three options for "An Wasserflüssen Babylon") ☺ Mathsci (talk) 14:20, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I meant something different when I said "in Wikipedia's voice": I meant something that doesn't need WP:in-text attribution. If Kirsten Beißwenger, a leading Bach scholar, says something isn't proven, you can't take a stance as Wikipedia implying that it is proven. You can only quote the leading Bach scholars, such as Peter Wollny, who say that it is proven, with an in-text attribution to such scholars. And then quote the opposing view, with an in-text attribution to a leading scholar that says that it isn't proven (to keep within WP:NPOV). All of that is less suitable for a hook on the main page, and anyhow requires the current hook proposal to be rewritten. --Francis Schonken (talk) 19:46, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
There has been borderline edit-warring by Francis Schonken as he edit-wars in his preferred version of the lede. That does not represent "wikipedia's voice". Bach scholars have ascertained that BWV 653 was written in the period 1740–1750, in Bach's late maturity. That chronology conflicts with Francis Schonken's preferred lede: it is quite misleading for general readers. As a comic touch, in this edit[7] Francis Schonken wrote the edit summary Still incoherent, see talk. Those comments, however, were all written dictée by Francis Schonken. On this rare occasion, he seems to have been accurate. ☺ Mathsci (talk) 07:31, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Isn't this what is normally called "know all"?[8] Mathsci (talk) 08:09, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Remains to be done:
  • Address the issues of two banner tags in the article (lead section; history & context section)
  • Address the issues of seven in-line tags in the musical settings section (unless such minor tags are less a problem to go to the next phase of DYK)
  • Update DYK proposal (ALT text proposal; indicate correct source(s); update proposed image caption)
  • (don't know whether there are still other things to do)
I'd invite Gerda Arendt to take, if possible, an active role in sorting these last issues; at least, if their time is limited, indicate a direction for how to address the two banner issues at the article talk page (I fear neither is going to fall off the page automatically, and already spent more time than I should have in trying to get these issues sorted). --Francis Schonken (talk) 15:10, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment. User:Innisfree987 is an appropriate evaluator for the DYK and I would like to thank him for his comments which seem fair. I would also like to thank Gerda for initiating the DYK and for her offer to help me on the article. Gerda did that unprompted and it was kind of her to do so.
The hook seems fine. There is a problem, however, for the DYK image. The high resolution image from commons was uploaded a number of years back (2015), but the source is no longer available: it returns an error and I have been unable to locate the link. It is possible to give some kind of documentation for the source, but not necessarily on-line. The official documentation of Michael Maul and Peter Wollny, which needs to be verified, is a reference section available in a music library (in that case I used the Anderson Room in the University Library, Cambridge) but is not available on-line. The bare link to the 2006 publication of Bärenreiter Verlag is available, but that does not seem to be enough at the moment. Mathsci (talk) 06:52, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, both. I suggest that we focus on the hymn and its creation, and mention only what is certain about Reincken and Bach? We need to work on the Bucer thing then, but can move details on Reincken to his bio, and details on Bach to Orgelbüchlein? Sorry that I was not more helpful, but in March, I focus on women, Passion and Easter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I agree with Gerda. Bucer is not relevant here, nor any wikipedia "hack work", nor any of the original organ works by Bach, such as Great Eighteen Chorale Preludes (BWV 653 from "An Wasserflüssen Babylon"). Only the copying of Reincken's chorale prelude when Bach was a teenager are important for this DYK hook. The image, however, has not been properly sourced on Commons: I know how to rectify that but it will take a day or so. Mathsci (talk) 19:01, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Excellent, that all sounds completely appropriate to me, and the effort is much appreciated! Just drop me a ping when I should have another look. Thank you all! Innisfree987 (talk) 19:04, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I have found a properly sourced image on Commons now available on Bärenreiter Verlag. The image was in the "extras" section of the facsimile. See File:ReinckenAnWasser.jpg for the links there. Mathsci (talk) 20:42, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
In the hook, perhaps we should say "young man" or "teenager", instead of boy? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
"young musician" seems like the best description, given the context. Mathsci (talk) 20:07, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • As mentioned on the user talk page of Gerda Arendt, the current lead follows the same spirit as Gerda's DYK hook. One of the sentence is essentially adapted from Gerda, with some tweaks by several other users:
"The arrangements of "An Wasserflüssen Babylon" by Reincken and Pachelbel—along with the chorale prelude "Nun freut euch, lieben Christen g’mein," BuxWV 210 by Dietrich Buxtehude—comprise the earliest extant transcriptions of Bach, copied on a 1700 organ tablature in Lüneberg when he has still a youth; remarkably, they were only unearthed in Weimar in 2005."
Gerda seemed happy with that and wrote "Thank you!" Mathsci (talk) 06:14, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 26

Isabelle Druet

  • Reviewed: Stanley Gelbier
  • Comment: a bit of a rush job, trimming to only sourced, and I didn't get to the recordings.

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:54, 2 March 2018 (UTC).

I'm nor sure what you mean about "I didn't get to the recordings." Did you refer to the discography of the artists (like those provided by Discogs, AllMusic and their ilk or other links to YouTube or Dailymotion, which I thought should be used with parcimony?LouisAlain (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
I was rushing to rehearsal. For DYK, inline citations are needed, - a match/connection of what disdcogs says and the list, for example. Will do, but not now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg New, in time, long enough, sourced, inline hook citations check out, no apparent copyvios, QPQ done. Gerda Arendt, the hook feels like a bunch of facts slapped together, could you condense it a bit or suggest others? Omitting the reference to Concepción might help, or combining it with the last part (recording of L'heure espagnole), as they appear to be related. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:46, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I thought we should explain the lesser known work, but here you go:
ALT1: ... that the French mezzo-soprano Isabelle Druet performed as Carmen in Nancy and Düsseldorf, and appeared as Concepción on stage in Lyon, and on a recording? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, I was thinking of something along the lines of:
ALT2: that the French mezzo-soprano Isabelle Druet performed as Carmen in Nancy and Düsseldorf, and was recorded in Ravel's L'heure espagnole on stage in Lyon? --Usernameunique (talk) 22:05, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Nice try. For some reason, we seem to say "she recorded", never "she was recorded". In your wording, that could be some minor role, everybody knows "important female character" for Carmen ;)
ALT3: ... that the French mezzo-soprano Isabelle Druet performed as Carmen in Nancy and Düsseldorf, and as Puccini's Ciesca at the Paris Opera? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Rather than a list of roles and performances, how about something unusual, such as the fact that she co-founded a theatre company in 2000 when she was in her early 20s (since she was born in September 1979, she was either 20 or 21 at the time, and it's still in business today) and then went on to become a successful Carmen? (The co-founding—not founding—of "La Carotte" would need to be sourced, but that's easily done, though the description of their genres should also be verifiable.) Perhaps something like:
  • ALT4: ... that Isabelle Druet co-founded a French theatre company soon after turning 20, and later performed many mezzo-soprano opera roles, including Carmen in Nancy and Düsseldorf?
I've heard Druet in concert with Le Poème Harmonique—she's quite good—and I'm very surprised to see no mention of her work with them in the article, even though they account for 40% of her listed discography. Indeed, the article is clearly unbalanced since it makes no mention of her career outside of opera, and as over half her discography is non-opera, this is a significant part of her singing career. The article is also awfully close in tone to an artist's concert bio. Can it be made more encyclopedic, perhaps? BlueMoonset (talk) 17:08, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
It could, but by whom. It was translated from French, - I thought it was interesting enough for DYK, but reduced things I couldn't find sources for. - I have other to-do, especially now that March is over. How about you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, it's your nomination. I'm afraid I don't have the time myself. You can work on this one, or you can work on others. It's your choice, naturally, but this one needs more if it's to qualify for DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:46, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Repeating: it's my nomination. I noticed a great woman, about whom I knew nothing, and trimmed the article to match requirements. Her concerts and recordings are in hidden text, but lack citations. - The article is higher standard than some others of mine that "make it". You, however, heard her, so I dared to ask if your urge to improve might be higher than mine. I have a GA on hold, that I don't get to (soon( enough (see my talk), and it's a topic dear to my heart. There's real life also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:15, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 27

Clarinet Sonata (Ries)

Created/expanded by Graham1973 (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 07:08, 4 March 2018 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. Why is Hill 1982 not used? - I did some formatting, please check. - The hook is not the most interesting, and the fact should be stated in the lead, where "violin" is not even mentioned, and/or and infobox, compare Clarinet Sonatas (Brahms). Other ideas? Cadenza, which is unusual for a sonata? - Side note: the navbox is called Duo Sonatas, and while I know that there are others, "Duo" seems to be the default for Sonatas. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I came across this article when doing new page patrolling and I know nothing on the topic. It seemed interesting to me that a clarinet sonata could be transcribed for a violin, hence the hook. I have expanded the lead section slightly but I do not wish to add a navbox. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:14, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I hope I won't disappoint you too much but being transcribed for violin is very common for sonatas for more unusual instruments, nothing specific to this piece. If nothing can be found I'll approve it, but let's try first, - perhaps the cadenza line, which is common in a concerto, but - afaik - not in a sonata? - Not sure what you mean about no navbox, - there is a navbox at the bottom, - also nothing specific to this piece, and with a strange title, - sonatas are duos unless otherwise noted. The section "Instrumentation" is not needed because that's the default. (But if we drop it we may get too short for DYK.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
It's not my article. The creator may not want it at DYK for all I know, and I am not going to start mucking the article around. I thought the hook fact interesting, you obviously don't, so we are a bit stuck. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:22, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Graham1973, what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Alfred White Franklin

  • ... that English paediatrician Alfred White Franklin compared the perpetrators of child abuse to sufferers from leprosy and venereal disease. Source: "Franklin argued that perpetrators of child abuse could only be stopped if like sufferers from leprosy and venereal disease in the past, society allowed them to come into the open."[10]

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 20:35, 3 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This is my first QPQ, but as far as I can tell, the following: The article was definitely long enough by about five times. I added the missing source and citation to the hook, and the source is correctly cited inline. Article is neutral. The hook is borderline too negative, but trying to make it a bit more positive ends up making the hook too long. Ran Earwig. One of the sources needs a touch of editing for close paraphrasing: [11]. A small copy edit might be in order, but not sure about doing it myself since it's my first QPQ. Editing suggestions: Obtain ISBNs for the books in Authored and Edited sections. Worldcat is great for that. []. The Later life and Family sections are very short. Suggest combining and renaming to Personal life or similar heading. Also, they completed their QPQ. Another editor might review due to this being my first QPQ.
  • Additional comment. I was mistakenly under the impression that one needed to add the bit that I added to the hook in the template. The source text and citation URL. However, further reviewing led me to this comment in a new, unused template. "Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)". I concur with the template that it is strongly advised and helps the reviewer, but it is not a requirement. I will also add that the reviewer must still be able to verify in the article that the source content is present, distinctly supports the hook, and is cited by the source with an inline citation. This DYK clearly does. My bad, first QPQ. dawnleelynn(talk) 03:56, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the detailed review. One section merged. Last seems to fulfill a useful function in concluding the article. Working on the paraphrasing. I think the ISBNs might have to wait. The hook is a little provocative it's true but it accurately states his views that child abusers were themselves suffering from some sort of disorder that required treatment. More on the rest soon. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • I just helped my mentor with adding some ISBNs to her article so it was on my mind. However, looking at policy, I find it takes some consideration to decide if to add an ISBN to a book and which one if so; it's not just a simple case of adding them. See WP:MOS-BIBLIO the section titled ISBNs. So yes, it can wait, it was just a suggestion. Regarding the hook, it accurately states that Franklin compared child abusers to the sufferers of two illnesses. Anything else is conjecture. The means of comparison and the hope for stopping child abusers by letting them into the open is not in the hook. I will consider this a bit more or ask a more experienced reviewer as part of the DYK criteria is the hook not be too negative. Thanks for your input. dawnleelynn(talk) 17:31, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth: Hi, what's up. I'm in my first QPQ, and I could use an opinion from such an expert reviewer as yourself on the hook. It's pretty much explained in the above comments what the deal is. In light of the comments above, let me know if you feel the hook needs a little bit of lightening up, and if so, how that might be done. I haven't been able to come up with a change to the original hook or an alternate that isn't too long. Your help much appreciated. dawnleelynn(talk) 21:22, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

  • Could you explain please in what way you feel it is too negative? It is eye-catching certainly but was not intended to criticise anyone. He did make exactly that comparison and it is not intended as any criticism of him that he did so. It's also sourced. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Sure. As stated above, the hook only states a comparison between child abusers and sufferers of two illnesses. Child abusers are like lepers and those with VD. We don't know what the comparison is. The rest is left out, the hope for stopping the abuse by letting them out in the open. As you said, the article states his comparison is based on his views that they were all suffering from a disorder that required treatment. But that is not in the hook. How are they like them? Why do I care? What does this comparison accomplish? Being able to add in a bit about how the comparison makes a difference could lighten it up. At least explain what is being compared. Otherwise, it sounds slightly negative because it's just a statement that three negative things all compare together, with no solution or hope or end game. Does that help? dawnleelynn(talk) 22:25, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • OK, but that was really the point. The rules say "Interesting hooks will often include one or more of the following: An unlikely juxtaposition. A tease, giving only part of the relevant information." It isn't always possible or desirable to explain everything in the space allowed but I will look at it again. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:31, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • I understand your points. But I had already said I was turning this over to someone with experience who is listed as DYK personnel. I think we should let Cwmhiraeth take a look now. I am not going to weigh in on this anymore. It is my first QPQ, I did make that clear. Also, my mentor agreed with me. Thank you though. dawnleelynn(talk) 22:39, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Hi Yoninah, could you take a look at this issue regarding the hook please? I pinged Cwmhiraeth yesterday because they appear on the DYK page of users that are formally listed to answer questions and review nominations, etc. But they don't appear to be active since yesterday morning. You are the only other editor I know, and you are super knowledgeable and above reproach. I have come to trust your ability here 100%. If you read through the comments above on the hook, it will explain the issue. I would accept your recommendation without question. This editor deserves a better answer than I can give. After all, it's my first QPQ. The only other thing holding up my approval is the issue with close paraphrasing.
  • Belated response, I've been away. I don't find the hook accurate. The comparison concerns the necessity for child abusers to be accepted by society as are lepers and those with venereal disease, in order for them to be treated appropriately. Can yiou find a better hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:23, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
In what respect is the hook inaccurate please? Here is the quote from Franklin in the source which is also visible online:

The second step is to alter the outlook of neighbors, encouraging them to regard child abuse as the result of mental illness in parents who were themselves emotionally deprived if not abused in their own childhood. The parents need help when they feel the compulsion to attack their child, but, sharing our horror, they hide and so at present the diagnosis is not made until one child has died or been gravely damaged. Only when neighbors, lay and professional, substitute compassion for horror is there a chance to save the first child from harm and the parents from being enmeshed in further emotional tangles by the realization that they have damaged their own child. Our compassion can be evoked once we realize how seriously deprived and damaged these parents must themselves have been in their own childhood. In times past, two sad sets of patients were isolated from the community by similar horror - lepers and sufferers from venereal disease. We now view leprosy as just another infection, responding best to early treatment, and venereal disease as an unlucky (but likely enough) accident in an amoral permissive society. Only when the compassion of society allowed these sufferers to come out into the open could treatment be effective and future generations protected. So it is with child abuse.

Philafrenzy (talk) 09:17, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 3

Endsleigh Gardens

Hannah Dobbs
Hannah Dobbs
  • ... that Endsleigh Gardens was originally part of Euston Square, but was renamed following a "gruesome murder"?
  • Alt1... that in 1878, Endsleigh Gardens was the scene of a murder for which Hannah Dobbs (pictured) was acquitted at the Old Bailey?

Created by Edwardx (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 23:35, 11 March 2018 (UTC).

COMMENT: @Philafrenzy: the hook is ambiguous, maybe even to the point of being misleading. It was named following the murder, not named after as in given the same name as. Umimmak (talk) 23:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Umimmak. Agreed, hook reworded accordingly. Edwardx (talk) 23:54, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Gruesome murder put in quotes as it is. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:36, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that hook issues have been discussed. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:48, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Long enough. The DYK submission was made a day and half late, but personally I would be willing to overlook that. There is a citation needed template on the article which must be fixed before promotion. No copyvio detected, images properly licensed. Alt1 hook is ok, the first hook would be acceptable if "Euston Square" was changed to "part of Euston Square". I'm concerned with the general quality of the refs. I only did a small sample, but the results were mixed. Ref#1 does not have a named author, but it is on a university site so probably ok. Ref#2 is a ref to a book, but the information appears to have been taken from the publisher's advertising blurb rather than the book itself. At least, that's where the link goes and there are no page numbers cited. Ref#3 is a blog. Ref#4 checks out, but the cited sentence contradicts the lead. The article (and the source) say the whole square was renamed. The lead says the South side was renamed. Ref#9 goes to the promotional site for Friends House, apparently to verify the location of Friends House, but the word "Endsleigh" does not appear on the page. It gives the address as Euston Road, and that's putting aside the question of using a promotional site as a reliable source. I'm not seeing any contribution from either author on the page cited for QPQ. SpinningSpark 18:08, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Spinningspark: Thanks for the review. First hook struck as not needed. Regarding the refs:

  • I agree that Indiana University Bloomington is reliable despite not having a named author.
  • Ref 2 should be acceptable as a page from The History Press which is a reputable publisher.
  • The only function of Ref 3 appears to be so that we can use the quote "gruesome murder". The Alt can work without it and I take your point that it is a blog, however it is Senate House Library of the University of London (nearby) and can't all murders reasonably be described as "gruesome". There are no nice murders. Do you feel strongly about it?
  • Ref 4 replaced with a better source and wording amended accordingly.
  • By Ref 9 do you mean Ref 5 [] ? I have removed it as the fact was already supported by the Ordnance Survey map reference.

There is no requirement for the person who did the QPQ to have made any contribution to this article. The QPQ was a gift in consideration for helping out elsewhere. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:39, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

First of all, there is no indication from the reviewer either here or at the reviewed article that the review has been "donated". More importantly, the QPQ requirement is on the nominator of the article: " For every nomination you make you must review one other nomination (unrelated to you)‍" (my emphasis). I haven't done a new review, I'll wait till the QPQ issue is resolved first, but judging by your replies it looks like it still has problems. SpinningSpark 22:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Your italics, it just means that it's one for one, hence quid pro quo. If you check the edit history you will see that the review was added by Whispyhistory, unprompted, with the edit summary "(dyk qpq- gift to EdwardX)". It's not a trick to try to get out of doing one. Edwardx and I have done 100s, it was just a nice thought from another user. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Spinningspark, having an uninvolved editor donate a QPQ has been done many times in the past here at DYK. It is perfectly legitimate: so long as a full review has been done of another article, while the onus is on the nominator, someone else can volunteer to supply the needed QPQ in place of the nominator. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:24, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Bluemoonset, thanks for clarifying that. QPQ is all good now. It would have been clearer if the donation had been stated and linked to the edit summary that actually made the donation. I'll take another look at the article. SpinningSpark 08:10, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Still problematic
    • "gruesome murder". If this is in quotes, it must be attributed to someone and cited directly with an inline cite per WP:V. If it is not in quotes, it is being said in Wikipedia's voice and runs afoul of WP:WTW.
    • "The Ghosts of Senate House" ref is still a blog regardless of Sarah Sparkes' (the blogger) connection with Senate House Libraary. There is no evidence that Sparkes meets the expert requirement at WP:SPS. The strapline at the top of the page reads "apocryphal stories and the spirit of the place", to my mind, openly declaring itself to be non-RS. The page calls for ghost stories to be sent in, and many of the posts on the page are from authors other than Sparkes with no sign there has been any kind of editorial fact checking. The relevant post is not by Sparkes, but by Chris Josiffe who appears to be an undergraduate, again almost certainly not meeting WP:SPS.
    • On reflection, I accept the History Press source as being reliable, but only because it was written by Jan Bondeson himself, the author of the book being discussed, and he probably does meet WP:SPS. We do not normally accept publihser's blurbs as being reliable, no matter how notable the publishing house is. Basically, they are advertising and can't be relied on to be a true reflection of the book's content or all its nuances.
This will be my last review of this submission. Please do not ping me, if you need another review then wait for anouther reviewer. SpinningSpark 09:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg "Gruesome murder" replaced with just murder. Blog removed. New reviewer required for the final tick since everything else has been done as far as I can see. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 4

Scott G. Borg

  • ALT2 ... that Scott G. Borg has been credited with helping develop the drilling technology that retrieved the first pure water samples from an ice-covered Antarctic lake?

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 08:13, 4 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is long enough and new enough. First source does not work but I see that the first sentence is supported by source #2 which however does not contain the dates 1992 and 2003. Hook is supported by source which looks reliable and moderately interesting. No copyvio or plagiarism that I can see. Sources seem reliable, do we know if this is a BLP seeing as I don't see any dates? I see that the QPQ is done (further comment on circularity there). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:28, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Jo-Jo Eumerus - thanks for the review. My sources got mixed around so I've fixed them in the article. Also, I've put forth a slightly reworded ALT-1 (on review of the source it seems that the Nunataks were named after the Sagehens as a moniker for Pomona's athletic teams generally, and not the mascot Cecil specifically). Chetsford (talk) 22:55, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Source #6 talks about " Sagehen, mascot of Pomona College" which isn't the same statement as what is currently in the article. Other issue is fixed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:01, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Alt-2 proposed! Chetsford (talk) 04:53, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 5

Group testing

  • ... that Group testing can be used for DNA sequencing, cryptography, machine learning and data forensics? Source: based on the 'Example applications' section.
    • ALT1:... that Group testing can be used to determine if data has been altered without storing any additional information? Source: this is the trust of the Data Forensics section, based on: Goodrich, Michael T.; Atallah, Mikhail J.; Tamassia, Roberto (7 June 2005). "Indexing information for data forensics". Applied Cryptography and Network Security. Springer Berlin Heidelberg: 206–221.

Improved to Good Article status by CheChe (talk). Self-nominated at 18:08, 9 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - sourcing check, inline citations checks, Both hooks accepted. long enough, Improved to Good article status. Good 2 go.BabbaQ (talk) 18:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Hi, I came to move this to queue, but I can't see which part of the article or the source confirms the hook? Please you can you clarify this? Thanks. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:50, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ritchie333 No problem. The idea behind the hook is the subject of the data forensics section. Specifically, in the last paragraph we have: "In fact, the amount of hashes needed is so low that they, along with the testing matrix they refer to, can even be stored within the organisational structure of the data itself. This means that as far as memory is concerned we can perform the test 'for free'." The source is Goodrich et al. (2005) as cited in the article. –♫CheChe♫ talk 16:39, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
If this is not deemed satisfactory please use the first hook instead. –♫CheChe♫ talk 19:06, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Haint blue

Moved to mainspace by Boomur (talk). Self-nominated at 01:37, 6 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough and (barely) long enough. Earwig found no copyvio. Interesting hook, adequately sourced. QPQ done. However, the article (especially in its infobox) appears to imply that there was one specific shade of blue that could be called "haint blue", and gives it a specific encoding in the sRGB and HSV color spaces. The article explicitly tags this claim as being unsourced, and the article sources (particularly the use of plural in the title of reference 6) instead suggest that any light blue used for this purpose would have this name. This citation-needed tag needs to be resolved before this can appear in DYK. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:38, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg It has now been more than a month since my review, with no substantial edits to the article since the date of nomination, and no response to my review. The nominator is on a self-imposed wikibreak, hasn't edited since before the review, and has given no indication of when they might return. As such I'm marking this as a no, although if the situation changes before this is closed we can revisit the nomination (in that case, please ping me to make sure I see the change). —David Eppstein (talk) 20:53, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 6

Mindy Alper

Created by Ringbang (talk) and Girona7 (talk). Nominated by Ringbang (talk) at 17:41, 8 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Comment I realize to be subjective: reading the article, I found myself wondering what Alper’s art itself is actually like. Entry has loads of great stuff about her training, places she’s exhibited, teaching she’s done, the film about her (well done!)—but just a handful of sentences about what art she’s produced. (This is also reflected in the lead, which indicates she’s known as a painter and sculptor, but doesn’t say what materials she works with, what school she belongs to if any, what themes she’s known for engaging, or other major identifying qualities for summarizing an artist’s work.) If secondary sources for this just aren’t available, I understand and will be happy to check this off as I think it meets the letter of the DYK criteria; but if it’s possible to add more about the substance of her artistic output before it goes out to DYK readers, I think that would make it much more useful. Let me know! Innisfree987 (talk) 21:17, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Related: noticing lead says her media are painting and sculpture but infobox says drawing and sculpture—adding at least enough about the work to nail this down one way or another would be great. I’ll look for refs too. Innisfree987 (talk) 21:48, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Mary A. Monroe

Created by Jwrosenzweig (talk). Self-nominated at 04:08, 13 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, in time, long enough, sourced, inline hook citations check out, no apparent copyvios, QPQ done. Jwrosenzweig, could you think of some more hooks? However impressive being the first woman to serve in those roles is, it lacks meaning—and thus interest as a hook—when the organizations themselves, and their importance, require explanation. Few people will knows what the Washington Education Association and the State Normal School are; the former didn't even have an article until you created one. --Usernameunique (talk) 01:28, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review....I'm a little stumped for hooks. If her being the first woman president of a statewide teachers' union or the first woman trustee for what is now a medium-sized regional public university are not sufficiently notable as hooks, I'm not really sure what would be relevant. I mean, she chased off a house burglar and she saw her local elementary school through rebuilding projects after two catastrophic fires, but it's hard to say why anyone would care about that if they don't care about her trailblazing work as a woman educator. I get that the WEA might not be a good hook since we (appallingly) have nothing about it but a stub I produced when I realized we had nothing at all. What if we relink it as Eastern Washington University in the ALT1 -- would piping the link like that seem more appealing? Jwrosenzweig (talk) 19:47, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
      • Sorry, we don't need to pipe that link -- the link was already piped. So I guess I'm just suggesting that we call it Eastern Washington University in the hook. Would that help you at all? Jwrosenzweig (talk) 19:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 11

Both Lives Matter

  • ... that Both Lives Matter ran an ad campaign in 2017 with two billboards featuring the headline: "100,000 people are alive today because of our laws on abortion. Why change that?" Source: [13]

Created by Birtig (talk) and Lionelt (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 06:55, 18 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg While this is new enough and (just barely) long enough, when I have a look at some of the available sources not yet included in the entry, I became concerned this page may not yet treat the subject in a sufficiently neutral way (meaning, neutrally represents the balance of reliable sources) as to meet that DYK criterion. Other neutrality concerns have also been raised on the talk page. I would advise revision/expansion to settle these issues before pursuing DYK. (You may also wish to consider an alternative hook to be sure of clearing NPOV as well; perhaps instead something about their winning an award for the campaign, so as[Please see my follow-up below] to avoid reiterating a disputed claim in a space too small to allow contextualization.) Innisfree987 (talk) 07:04, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Don't know what you're talking about. The article mentions that (1) 14 complaints were lodged, and (2) that the name is a ripoff of Black Lives Matter. Sounds like the article was written in a NPOV manner to me. The "concern" you refer to on talk is no longer an issue. It was resolved via consensus. Anyway, this is a DYK afterall, and the article is a step above a stub. I'm sure there's no end to the amount of "available sources." But we're only given 7 days to put this thing together. Pinging the article creator @Birtig:Lionel(talk) 07:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Sure, it can be a stub but it also has to be neutral. So if a neutral treatment of a topic can’t be accomplished in the space of a stub, to me it doesn’t qualify. (As for timing the instructions do advise to create in sandbox if you’re not sure you’ll be able to do enough in time allotted.) Just for instance on missing pieces, I was quite surprised when I searched (the link in the ref is broken...) and learned the BLM criticism was about a good deal more than just the appropriation of the name. My concern regards whether relevant perspectives are sufficiently accounted for to qualify as a neutral report, given extent of controversy on the subject. But I don’t mind a bit if you request a fresh review; I’m just one editor. Cheers! Innisfree987 (talk) 07:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that Belfast pro-life group Both Lives Matter won the Northern Ireland Public Affairs Campaign of the Year for the "100,000" billboard campaign in its first year of operations?" Source:s "A Belfast-based pro-life group... won the Northern Ireland Public Affairs Campaign of the Year... We are stunned and delighted to have won best campaign in our first year." [14]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Ready for a new reviewer. – Lionel(talk) 06:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Comment I’m sorry, I realize this hook was my suggestion but now reading a bit more into sources, I learned that actually there wasn’t any other campaign competing for the award... Had I known, I'm not sure I would have suggested the win as a good option for a fact not needing additional contextualization. The discovery also reinforces my concern the entry is not yet developed sufficiently to be confident it neutrally represents the "controversial" (source) subject. I've now added a couple things to address absences I've noticed so far, but there are a lot more sources I haven't examined.
I look forward to hearing what another/other editors think. Innisfree987 (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Sayyidat Nisa al-Alamin

Created/expanded by Ali Ahwazi (talk). Self-nominated at 10:27, 11 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen in online English-language sources. No QPQ needed for first-time nominator.
  • However, the article needs a copyedit for an English-language readership. It is unclear why the article begins with the section "Al-'Alamin" or what this section is coming to tell us. The rest of the writing is written in an unencyclopedic manner and is hard to understand, like:

Besides, it is quoted that Muhammad said “Fatimah is the leader of the ladies of paradise”, then it was asked of Imam Jafar al-Sadiq that “Is Fatimah the best lady of her time?” then he mentioned Mary as the best lady of her time, and Fatimah as the best lady of the paradise since start till end of the world. Meanwhile, many famous Shia scholars among Shaikh Tusi have quoted such high title(s) of Fatimah in their books.

  • I suggest you ask at WP:GOCE for help in bringing this article up to English-language standards. Yoninah (talk) 22:53, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I reviewed the references a bit and it doesn't seem very satisfactory. Especially the Sunni section, it cherrypicks several opinions of individual Sunni scholars (who might not even use the exact term as far as I can see), and then use those to support the generic statement that "Sunni Islam considers Fatimah as Sayyidat Nisa al-Alamin". Many of the citation are primary (using primary texts from centuries ago) and might not necessarily reflect the opinion of the Sunni community as a whole. HaEr48 (talk) 07:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 12

Zavier Simpson

Zavier Simpson in 2018
Zavier Simpson in 2018
Zavier Simpson in 2018
Zavier Simpson in 2018
Zavier Simpson in 2017
Zavier Simpson in 2017
  • ... that point guard Zavier Simpson (pictured) had many of his highest scoring games as a sophomore against top-ten ranked opponents, including his two highest scoring games, which were against top-five opponents?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 03:26, 14 March 2018 (UTC).

  • It would not be wrong to say ALT1 ... that point guard Zavier Simpson (pictured) had many of his highest scoring games as a sophomore against top-ten ranked opponents, including his four highest scoring games, which were against top-five opponents?
  • TonyTheTiger, that shouldn't be an issue: the nomination page was created in plenty of time on March 14, the day after the article was created. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:40, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Slavic speakers in Ottoman Macedonia

The guerilla band of Gonos Yotas.
The guerilla band of Gonos Yotas.
  • ... that the formation of national parties among Slavic speakers in Ottoman Macedonia led to family members, like first cousins Gonos Yotas (pictured) and Apostol Petkov, fighting in enemy bands? Sources: "Members of the same families could belong to different nationalities" (Vermeulen 1984, p. 240), "comme dans toute guerre civile, on assiste au déchirement violent du tissu social avec des tueries ou des confrontations armées entre voisins, covillageois ou membres de la même famille. Les Mémoires des anciens combattants sont pleins de détails de ce genre : des Andartès grecs ayant des liens de parenté avec des comitadjis de l’ORIM" (Kostopoulos 2011), "Ὁ Γκόνος Γιώτας, ἀπό τό Πλουγκάρ Γιαννιτσῶν, πρώην κομιτατζής καί από τό 1905 στήν ὑπηρεσία τοῦ Γ. Προξενείου Θεσσαλονίκης, πρωτοξάδελφος τοῦ «φοβεροῦ» βούλγαρου βοεβόδα Ἀποστόλ Πέτκωφ" (Καράβας 2014, p. 102) --- please see article bibliography for full bibliographical references
    • ALT1:... that the reluctance of Slavic speakers in Ottoman Macedonia to support national causes triggered a wave of terrorist violence from nationalist bands? Source: "Greek and Bulgarian bands engaged in an unconventional guerrilla struggle to command the hotly disputed loyalties of a population largely indifferent to the sirens of nationalism." (Livanios 2008, pp. 19-20, discussed at greater length in Livanios 1999)
    • ALT2:... that the national allegiance of Slavic speakers in Ottoman Macedonia became the apple of discord for the Balkan states vying for dominion over the region? Source: "the main issue at stake in Ottoman Macedonia was the loyalties and perceived ‘national orientation’ of the Slav-speaking population" (Livanios 2008, p. 7)

Created by Ashmedai 119 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:47, 12 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 14

Birgit Remmert

  • Reviewed: Shalimar Sharbatly
  • Comment: in Iokaste, it's also the only role, but that would probably too long to mention? It tells the story of Oedipus from her point of view, - in March if possible

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:24, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, in time, long enough, inline hook citations check out, no apparent copyvios, QPQ done. I've reworded the hook slightly. Gerda Arendt, the awards section should be cited. Also, that Penthesilea is a Greek tragedy is mentioned in neither the Remmert nor the Penthesilea article. --Usernameunique (talk) 07:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the review. Please don't change a hook, unless it's minor. This - sorry - is nonsense:
ALT1: ... that Birgit Remmert appeared in title roles of Schoeck's Greek tragedy turned into opera Penthesilea, and Iokaste, written for her?
There's no Schoeck's Greek tragedy, but two operatic roles derived from Greek tragedy mythology, Penthesilea and Iphigenia, by different composers, one little known, the other one unknown. Do we have to explain in an actor's article playing Julia that Romeo and Julia are lovers? How is this?
ALT2: ... that Birgit Remmert appeared in operatic title roles from Greek mythology, Schoeck's Penthesilea, and Iokaste, which Stefan Heucke composed for her?
I didn't know that Penthesilea wasn't in an ancient play, - always learning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 15

SS Lakeland

The SS Lakeland sinking
The SS Lakeland sinking

Created/expanded by GreatLakesShips (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 22 March 2018 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - cited yes but reliability of [15] is not clear. You might want to look for contemporary newspaper or book sources instead. The Wikipedia Library offers access to databases such as which contains a lot of old newspapers.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg @GreatLakesShips: See comments above. Also,

Lakeland sinking.jpg

for the picture, File:Lakeland sinking.jpg might actually be better (see on the right), combined with a hook that talks about the sinking. Please ping me if you have addressed those problems. Regards SoWhy 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Body horror

  • Reviewed: This is my first nomination.
  • Comment: Article created in my userspace on March 1, moved to mainspace on March 15.

Created by Itherina (talk). Self-nominated at 02:34, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen in online sources. I don't see the first hook fact in the article; could you point it out to me? I prefer the first hook over the others, which divert the focus to films rather than the target article.
  • Regarding the article: I added a few "citation needed" tags. I don't understand why you're listing writers, directors, and artists in separate sections, and also the names of pertinent works in separate sections, without any sourcing. These examples should be put into prose paragraphs in the relevant sections ("Examples of films in the body horror genre include ..."), with a citation at the end.
  • While the article is start-class, it reads like a series of snippets from various books and authors. I notice a talk-page suggestion for fleshing out the presentation under social and cultural influence. Do you have more to add to this?
  • No QPQ needed for first-time nominator. Yoninah (talk) 21:22, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello Yoninah. Thank you for your response! I'll go ahead and clarify a few of the questions you posted above.
  • First, the Mary Shelley hook is referenced across two separate sentences, which can be found in the first two sentences fiction subsection of History. I see how the second sentence doesn't necessarily clearly or plainly state that Science Fiction was created my her, but was instead only implied. I'm definitely happy to clarify these sentences if you agree it isn't particularly clear in order to make the hook more representative.
  • Second, the feedback regarding removing the bulleted lists in favor of narrative was also provided to me earlier within a wikipedia academic fellowship pilot I'm currently participating in, and will be edited soon to reflect the feedback received.
  • Finally, this article will be an ongoing project and will be receiving substantial edits and improvements in the future, especially within the history section and social/cultural areas suggested in the talk pages. This is also in part the result of the fellowship pilot which is helping involve academics in the wiki editing process, so many of my questionable choices within the article are definitely a reflection of my newness to the process and adjustment from academic to encyclopedic writing styles. Any feedback or further changes or edits are much welcomed! Thank you. Itherina (talk) 00:22, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Castillo de Coca

The Coca Castle at night
The Coca Castle at night
  • Reviewed: First DYK

Created by 2Joules (talk). Self-nominated at 07:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @2Joules: This is a nice article on an important historic building. The article is new enough and long enough. The image is appropriately licensed, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. The hook facts need a citation at the end of the sentence. This is a requirement for DYK, and another requirement is that every paragraph has to have at least one reference. This applies to both the "History" section and the section "Locations open to tourist visit". When you have added these citations, I will be able to finish this review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:37, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra

5x expanded by Lionelt (talk) and Masem (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 02:35, 16 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment: for the record @Masem: expanded – Lionel(talk) 02:37, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
  • This is not a review, but I don't think the hook is appropriate. The reason is that this is a very controversial issue (whether US laws on free speech allow anti-abortion groups to masquerade as abortion centers, or whether they can be forced to tell visitors how to find the real abortion centers) but the hook only contains some bland and euphemistic organization names. We should give the readers more of a hint at what issues this case is about and what these groups are fighting for. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Workplace robotics safety

Drawing of a 1984 industrial robot accident
Drawing of a 1984 industrial robot accident
  • Reviewed: For first nomination, no review required.

Created by JC429618c (talk). Self-nominated at 19:26, 15 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg @JC429618c: I had begun a review for this hook, however... Before completing it, I consider it fair to note that the current hook may face quite a bit of trouble getting over the "interesting to a broad audience" aspect of the elegibility criteria. It seems, at least to me, that these injury types are fairly common in industry and happen even when there is no automated system involved.
I still think that there is potential in this topic. For example, take the case of the failsafe protocols that are applied to military robots and how the role of humans has decreased as the technology advanced (a piece about that can be seen here, but there are many others in relation to the purportedly probable "singularity"). Of course, this is just a suggestion; there might be other applications of these measures that could also serve to create an ALT hook, that don't involve the military or "killer robots". Once an adequate alternative is presented, I will review it accordingly. Old School WWC Fan (talk) 21:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Comment: Also of note is the broad definition of "workplace", the current revision emphasizes an industrial setting, but the title implies that the scope of the topic can include anything from that to the International Space Station. If the piece is only meant to discuss the risks of employing industrial robots, the article is in need of a new title. Old School WWC Fan (talk) 21:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
@Old School WWC Fan: Hi, I mentored User:JC429618c in writing this article. This article is about robots in the workplace, not military robots. It includes both traditional industrial robots and emerging technologies, as discussed in the background section, and most of the information is applicable to both; I've moved some text around a bit to make this clearer. At DYK, nominations are never failed for not being interesting enough; it's more important to make sure the hook fact is verified by the source. But here's another hook that night be more interesting. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 00:45, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that workplace robotics safety applies to both traditional industrial robots (pictured) and emerging technologies such as robotic exoskeletons and drone aircraft?
@John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): Thanks for the clarification. I will be providing a more complete review during the upcoming days. I also consider the ALT hook adequate. Old School WWC Fan (talk) 06:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Chinese characters for transcribing Slavonic

Chinese character representing an abbreviation of the word Christ
Chinese character representing an abbreviation of the word Christ
  • ... the Russian Orthodox Church created their own Chinese characters for translating religious texts?Source:One area where there was an acute need for special Hanzi characters was in the translation of liturgical texts into Chinese and Japanese. In order to accomplish this task for Chinese, Archimandrite Gurias (né Gregory Platonovich Karpov) , head of the 14th Russian Mission in Beijing, devised a series of Hanzi characters for representing syllable structures not found in Chinese.[18]

Created by Sfjyu (talk). Self-nominated at 10:16, 18 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Article does not meet the length requirements for DYK and fails 2a in the criteria. Currently it has 1,305 characters, but DYK requires there to be a minimum of 1,500 characters. The article also fails 4, because it does not have any in-line citations. I'd recommend that if you're still interested in having a DYK for this article, re-nominate after those basic concerns are addressed. Nomader (talk) 04:38, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Could be easily done - for example the article currently contains no dates. Were the characters used much? Johnbod (talk) 12:33, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Sure, it could easily be done but right now the article has no sources at all. It should be fixed and then re-nominated. Nomader (talk) 14:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
It can't be re-nominated because then it would not be new enough. It should be fixed, period. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @Sfjyu: Do you have any sources that we could use to improve the article? I looked online but I came up dry (in a very cursory search, this definitely isn't my area of expertise). Nomader (talk) 19:25, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, English-language sources for this obscure topic appear to be limited, so the majority of my info was from the Unicode proposal itself (included as an article reference but not cited in-line: [19]). The proposal's reference list only includes primary sources (religious texts in Chinese) which utilize the said characters. Sfjyu (talk) 20:29, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
      • I'll try to improve the article a bit more, update the citing, and see if I can get it into shape. Sfjyu (talk) 21:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
        • I've expanded this article a bit, improved the citation, and added an additional source, the official Unicode Standard this time. It undoubtedly could use more improvement, but I believe it meets at least the eligibility criteria now, so I'd like to open it up again for review and editting. Sfjyu (talk) 23:29, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
          • Thanks, Sfjyu! I'm going to ping WT:DYK for a second set of eyes to look at this-- I'm not sure if this still meets the requirements but if someone else thinks so I'll be good with it! Nomader (talk) 18:04, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
          • Just a note here that the article does meet the 1500 character requirement now. Nomader (talk) 18:05, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came here from the notice at WT:DYK. The article seems to be sourced primarily to footnote 1, but not all the information in the article can be found in the source. I removed a cite to footnote 2 which did not correspond to anything in the source. The entire chart, which is unsourced, seems to be drawn from the page creator's knowledge. Even if this is an obscure topic, it needs solid sourcing from two or three independent references to pass DYK. Yoninah (talk) 11:53, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Here's what I used source #2 (the Unicode Standard 10.0 doc) for:

  • The dates of Archmandrite Gurias' term as head of the Russian Mission (1858-1864).
  • These new characters represent syllables not found in Chinese.
  • The inclusion of these characters in v10.0 of the Unicode Standard. (It wasn't present in v9.0).

All info is found on page 684 of the document, which I'll cite below (relevant text bolded).

Han Ideographs for Slavonic Transcription. The URO includes twenty CJK Unified Ideographs, U+9FD6 through U+9FE9, which are used for transcribing Slavonic literary documents into Chinese. Renewed contact between the Russian and Chinese Empires from the 18th to the 20th centuries led to the translation of Slavonic literary documents into both classical and vernacular Chinese. The Russian Mission in Beijing was a driving force behind this effort, and many of these characters were coined by Archimandrite Gurias, who was the head of the 14th Russian Mission (1858–1864). Although some existing CJK Unified Ideographs can be used for transcribing Slavonic, these twenty characters are distinct. Many of these characters are unusual in that they represent syllables not usually found in Chinese.


As for the character chart, the characters, construction, Unicode codepoints, and the comments were drawn from the Unicode proposal document. I took the additional step of linkifying those to the corresponding Unicode pages and Wiktionary links. Sfjyu (talk) 21:08, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 17

Jamil Smith (journalist)

Smith in February 2018
Smith in February 2018

Created/expanded by Innisfree987 (talk) and (talk). Nominated by Innisfree987 (talk) at 00:45, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Other than those little points, it looks pretty good. I'd prefer ALT1 over ALT0. Regards SoWhy 18:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 18

Leucospermum cuneiforme

Leucospermum cuneiforme, Potberg
Leucospermum cuneiforme, Potberg
  • ... that Leucospermum cuneiforme (pictured) is known as luisiesbos ("lice bush") as its seed pods resemble lice? Source
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Dwergenpaartje (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 12:20, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

NB: reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Eliezer Gruenbaum

  • Casliber (courtesy ping Dwergenpaartje):
  • long/new enough. Hook is interesting and cited in article\
  • I think I'd prefer a clarification that it is known as luisiesbos in Afrikaans, though.
  • Images appropriately licensed and hook image appears in article.
  • I think I'd appreciate a tighter crop just so the "lice-ness" can still be appreciated in such a small image, though.
  • (Binomen should be italicized in caption as well -- perhaps also have the genus abbreviated and I'm not sure if the location is needed for the DYK hook caption)
  • There are some long spans of text which only have a single reference which initially concerned me, however Earwig has 11.5%, which it classifies as "violation unlikely" and looking at Rourke and SANBI I don't think this is too closely-WP:PARAPHRASED. Ideally the promoter would take a second look just to confirm this judgement.
  • My main concern is that the second description paragraph lacks any citations whatsoever.
  • QPQ done
Symbol possible vote.svg Like I said, every paragraph needs at least one citation at minimum. Please also let me know your thoughts on a more tightly-cropped image and on explicitly mentioning Afrikaans in the hook. Umimmak (talk) 03:01, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
perhaps File:Leucospermum cuneiforme Potberg 04.jpg is better suited for the DYK; I have no problem with luisiesbos in Afrikaans, I've added two citations for the second Description section, although no additional information was taken from the second source.Dwergenpaartje (talk) 09:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
@Dwergenpaartje: Can you explain what you mean by although no additional information was taken from the second source? The footnotes should reflect the sources which were actually used to write a particular portion of the article. And since this is casliber's nomination I just want to see their responses to my questions/comment before approving, although I'm glad there are no longer unreferenced paragraphs. Umimmak (talk) 04:36, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Dwergenpaartje is the expert so will defer to his judgement on the sources. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
And regarding explicitly mentioning Afrikaans in the hook and an image which better shows the "liceness" at a small scale?? Umimmak (talk) 07:28, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

University of North Texas at Dallas College of Law

5x expanded by ErieSwiftByrd (talk). Self-nominated at 06:49, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article was expanded from a redirect on the same day of nomination and meets requirements on length, neutrality, sourcing, and plagiarism. Hooks are sourced inline and short, but not particularly interesting to a broad audience. I think the ALT1 hook could be improved by mentioning that the college is located in a historic department store building, or the $1 purchase of the Dallas Municipal Building. QPQ not required. SounderBruce 01:32, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
  • I added a new hook that I agree might appeal to a broader audience. ErieSwiftByrd (talk) 19:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
  • the new hook is now under 200 characters. ErieSwiftByrd (talk) 23:36, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
  • It's still really wordy. You can drop the Titche-Goettinger Building entirely, since it isn't necessary to understand the $1 purchase of the Municipal Building. SounderBruce 23:58, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Sampa the Great

  • Comment: Made article in my sandbox then moved it, but wrote all content in the span of a few hours, so essentially new.

Created by StewdioMACK (talk). Self-nominated at 04:36, 18 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 19

Yaroslav Halan

  • ... that 11 hits with an axe led to the death of the Ukrainian writer Yaroslav Halan, who was killed for his sharp political pamphlets (pictured)? Source: "Ilariy Lukashevych [...] and Mykhailo Stakhur, a rank-and-filed OUN member, came to Halan's apartment, on the pretext that Halan would help Lukashevych gain admission to a forestry college. Stakhur hit Halan 11 times with an axe, and the pair fled." ([20])
  • Comment: Article published on March 19, 2018

Created by Катала (talk). Self-nominated at 23:43, 25 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Non-free content can only be used in the article namespace per WP:NFCC#9, so File:Yaroslav Halan's Body After Murder.jpg cannot be used on this page. I'm not sure whether the presence of an image affects a DYK nomination, but please use a freely licensed/public domain image instead if an image is required for nomination purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:19, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Radiologically isolated syndrome

  • ... that 50% of people diagnosed with radiologically isolated syndrome go on to develop multiple sclerosis. Source: Reich, Daniel S; Lucchinetti, Claudia F.; Calabresi, Peter A (January 2018). "Multiple Sclerosis". The New England Journal of Medicine. 378 (2): 169–180. doi:10.1056/NEJMra1401483 (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that radiologically isolated syndrome is a rare condition that may develop into multiple sclerosis, even in children. Source: Makhani, Naila; Lebrun, Christine; Siva, Aksel; Brassat, David; Dallière, Clarisse Carra; Seze, Jérôme de; Du, Wei; Dubief, Françoise Durand; Kantarci, Orhun (2017-11-01). "Radiologically isolated syndrome in children: Clinical and radiologic outcomes". Neurology - Neuroimmunology Neuroinflammation. 4 (6): e395. doi:10.1212/NXI.0000000000000395. ISSN 2332-7812.
  • Comment: With help from WhatamIdoing

Created by Calaka (talk). Self-nominated at 10:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

  • My assistance was limited to formatting some refs and cheering Calaka on from the sidelines. I can tell you, if you're shying away from reviewing this because you're not a native speaker of medicalese (who is? ;-) ), that Calaka seems to have fairly represented the reliable sources, and that these actually are reliable sources for this subject. So you just need to do a normal review, without worrying that someone's going to die over a typo or something. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:16, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Sushil Siddharth

  • Reviewed: A Voz do Brasil
  • Comment: Also nominated for RD. Let's see what happens.

5x expanded by Skr15081997 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:30, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new and the topic interesting, and as far as I can discern it is not plagiarized; QPQ done and appears quite thorough and competent. However, the article needs copyediting for grammar: a necessary "the" is frequently dropped, the word order is strange at times (as in: "he and Ram Bahadur Mishra edited and published a quarterly Birwa dedicated to Awadhi language"), he died of "an heart attack", etc.; the style is also inconsistent, as italics are and aren't used for paper and journal titles; also, does one really use "served" to denote "worked for a magazine"? Other issues: what does "academic criticism" mean in this context? what are Spandan Samman and Madhuban Vyanga Shri Samman? must we have one-line sections (that are actually frowned upon by our Manual of Style), or could we possibly merge his career into one section? in "Maitreyi Pushpa was of the view that his talent could not be used correctly", what does "correctly" mean to say? The hook is also terribly not interesting, but rather the kind of generic polite stuff with a slight metaphorical twist that a writer would say about another, deceased, writer; I would think there's more potential of creating a hook from Maitreyi Pushpa's views, though I'm not sure I understand what she means, and the article would need to elaborate on that tidbit (an exact, lengthier quote from Pushpa?). Also note that the hook is ungrammatical: "satire was oxygen of" is incorrect; either use "was the oxygen" or go with the phrasing actually in the article -- "was oxygen in". Please consider this as purely constructive criticism, Dahn (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
  • The Spandan Samman and Madhuban Vyanga Shri Samman are literary awards. Rajkamal Prakashan and Kitabghar Prakashan are book publishing houses, so I haven't italicised their names. --Skr15081997 (talk) 14:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Well yes, but you should specify that in the article -- you could name the institutions not immediately apparent to clarify that they're publishing houses, and you could indicate who awards the Spandan Samman and Madhuban Vyanga Shri Samman (non-Indians and even some Indians presumably are left clueless as to what these things mean). Still waiting on grammatical corrections and clarifications of meaning, as well as the hook issue. Dahn (talk) 17:40, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Patrick Mayrhofer

  • Reviewed: QPQ pending

Created by OwenBlacker (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 20 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Review:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - specific use of "nerve impulses" used in main hook is not used in the article

QPQ: Red XN - Pending
Overall: The original hook is my preferred option but at least needs rewording ("that is controlled to his nerve impulses"). Both ALT hooks are fine but less interesting violet/riga [talk] 18:07, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Halcyon 6

Created/expanded by Zxcvbnm (talk). Self-nominated at 05:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Note: As the nominator has less than 5 DYK credits, no QPQ needed. The QPQ submitted with this nomination was not a complete review. Aside from suggesting a better hook, your future reviews should explicitly confirm that the five main DYK criteria have been met. A convenient Reviewer's Template is located above the edit window. Yoninah (talk) 19:47, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 20

Sister Jean

Created by Jrh9 (talk), Lionelt (talk), and Hammersoft (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 02:23, 27 March 2018 (UTC).


A sculpture of Graoully in Château du Haut-Kœnigsbourg
A sculpture of Graoully in Château du Haut-Kœnigsbourg
  • Reviewed: None. Not enough DYK credits

Created by 2Joules (talk). Self-nominated at 06:22, 24 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Good work on this! New and long enough, Earwig detects no copyvios, QPQ not needed. A couple of issues need to be dealt with. A few paragraphs are missing references. The hook should reflect that the creature and events are legendary. The image is a photograph of three-dimensional art, so we need to know when the sculpture was made, who the sculptor was, and where it was displayed. (France does not have freedom of panorama.) Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 02:15, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Jan Grabowski (historian)

Jan Grabowski
Jan Grabowski

5x expanded by Icewhiz, MyMoloboaccount, Nihil novi (talk). Self-nominated at 13:15, 22 March 2018 (UTC).

  • STRONGLY oppose, the estimate has been highly contested and rejected by several historians. Criticism of Grabowski in question has been removed from the article by user Icewhiz. Also misleading is the claim I have expanded the article-my edits were deleted by Icewhiz. This nomination is highly contentious.MyMoloboaccount (talk) 13:25, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
  • The work was generally positively received - in reviews in peer reviewed settings, including winning a major award for Holocaust studies. Clearly it did not go over so well in some Polish circles - leading to death threats, calls for his sacking, a boycott, and even some linking this research to the new Polish "Holocaust Law". The criticism is present in the article. MyMoloboaccount did add information published in an op-ed by Grzegorz Berendt which is in the article at the moment, and I believe in credit where credit is due - however if MyMoloboaccount objects to being name a contributor - he could be struck from contrib list, no? That Grabowski published a 200,000 estimate and received death threats should not be contentious.Icewhiz (talk) 13:44, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
  • It wasn't well received as you try to show, for example Grzegorz Berendt professor of the University of Gdańsk and member of The Jewish Historical Institute critized Grabowski's statements, stating that Prof. Grabowski alleges that Poles may have killed more than 200,000 Jews who escaped from the ghettos and camps. He knows full well that this number is “hot air.” The knowledge we possess allows us to estimate that at least 50,000 Jews escaped in the entire territory of occupied Poland. No other number has yet been proved by research. There are other historians who also sharply disagree with Grabowski and they should be included.And presenting this higly controversial claim as of hand statement of fact isn't neutral.In general the did you know nomination shouldn't be used to spread false or highly contested information as statement of fact--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 13:50, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Several praising reviews by historians. A major Holocaust studies prize. And yes - some very strong criticism from Poland (historians in op-eds, and the general public). The DYK hook makes it clear that this is an estimate, not fact, and that it is contentious in some circles.Icewhiz (talk) 13:55, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
  • And criticized by historians in articles including scientific journals.Your hook presents Grabowski's claim as a matter of fact, not as a highly controversial claim that was strongly contested by historians, including ones in The Jewish Historical Institute.Anyway the matter is so controversial and requires so much analysis that I don't believe it is a suitable hook materialMyMoloboaccount (talk) 14:09, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
  • "that it is contentious in some circles" nice, but the hook states death threats, while we are talking about critical reception of his claims.Obviously the two are not the same and it wouldn't be neutral to allege otherwise.MyMoloboaccount (talk) 14:16, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg An editor above has expressed concern regarding the article's neutrality. As with all hooks, the article must be neutral before it can be on the main page. Another concern: the article itself does not share the same information as the hook; instead of death threats, the article says "sharply criticized". Considering that the article is still experiencing substantial changes, I think it would have been wise to communicate with other contributors before launching this proposal.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 16:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
    in-article Hook fixed. the POV concern was expressed some 15 minutes after the DYK nom. At present, the article covers negative criticism (in non-peer reviewed settings) at much greater length than more numerous positive reviews (which are in peer-reviewed settings).Icewhiz (talk) 16:45, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
    As long as the tag is present, my hands are tied. It appears there is an ongoing discussion; perhaps you can resolve it.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:43, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Date, size, references, copyvio check, ok. Fails on the grounds of hook neutrality - the claim is that he made in his research is highly controversial, and the hook does not make that clear. This could be perhaps fixed by addition of the word controversial to the hook, through I am unsure if even this would make the hook acceptable. As I argued in other discussions, his research is reliable, if controversial, and his estiamte can be cited in relevant articles, but to make it a focus of a high visibility DYK without at least a qualifier is problematic. PS. I also couldn't verify if the picture is indeed free, will update (currently the picture's source is insufficient for verification). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:53, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
    English language sources do not refer to it as "highly controversial". Beyond the positive reviews (in English language peer reviewed journals) and major holocaust research prize, news orgs treat this as follows (and his figure has been covered multiple times by multiple top notch news orgs, particularly in light of the new Polish law):
    1. BBC does not mention controversial at all. It frames this as Some of that anti-Semitism ends up in Mr Grabowski's mailbox. In the past it was sent anonymously, he said. Now it is signed, and it includes threats against his family.. Grabowski's work is dicussed favorably previously in the article.
    2. Haaretz covers the work favorably in its own voice, framing criticism as coming from the Polish AD leauge and The subject touches a raw nerve for many in Poland.... or Those protesting Grabowski's research have been encouraged by a [the Polish] nationalist government.
    3. CBC Grabowski ... has faced much criticism from some Polish historians for his years of research, including his controversial conclusion that 200,000 Polish Jews were killed — directly or indirectly — by Poles during the war. and Poland's embassy to Canada, in Ottawa, has criticized Grabowki....
    However in the spirit of compromise (for the sake of hook berevity overstating the controversial aspect by not stating who is objecting while not mentioning the wide support):
    ALT2 .. that Jan Grabowski received death threats after publishing controversial research that estimated Poles killed some 200,000 Jews during the Holocaust? Source: see [25][26][27]
    Icewhiz (talk) 05:16, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • This is better, but I am still unsure whether putting a very strong and controversial claim like this on the Main Page is both a good idea, and allowed by the DYK neutrality rules. Let's hear about this from some other DYK reviewers. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:12, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • A possibly overly sanitized and less hooky shortet version would be:
  • ALT3 ... that Jan Grabowski received death threats after publishing research on the Polish role in the Holocaust? Source: see [28][29][30]
  • Icewhiz (talk) 13:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Hmmm. You maybe on to something Here's my version: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:14, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Article is completely ineligible. It is a Wikipedia:NPOV nightmare with neutrality disputed at the top of the target page. Not a single academic reference is used for a professional academician; but only the publicity stunts orchestrated by the subject himself, claiming to have received death threats. This nomination is a means for furthering the "Polish death camp" controversy editing wars, at your expense. Poeticbent talk 17:02, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
I have to add that I found numerous reports about the numbers being based on very flawed assumptions, and the article needs to be update in regards to this.MyMoloboaccount (talk) 14:23, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I share much of the exasperation regarding Grabowski's claims and the revisionist brouhaha (which I find just as intellectually honest and logically structured as John Sack's claims on the other side of the fence -- which is to say, not at all honest, not at all logical). However: "I found numerous reports about the numbers being based on very flawed assumptions, and the article needs to be update in regards to this" -- that sounds like an invitation to original research. Criticism of Grabowski needs to be based on what other published authors say about his work, not on what fault we find with it. Regardless of whether you or I find his assumption to be flawed, that's not what goes in the article; what goes in the article is that/if scholars have looked at his claims and have published commentary saying what they view as flawed in his work. Dahn (talk) 18:08, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I meant reports regarding Grabowski's numbers, sorry for not being clear.MyMoloboaccount (talk) 21:58, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
  • I also feel I should clarify something regarding the scope of the debate. To my knowledge, no Polish officials have ever claimed that there were no Poles involved in the mass murder of Jews; they have expressed quite justified and evidently verifiable claims: that the criminals were not a representative sample of Polish society (and were in fact renegade collaborators or opportunists), and that the Polish Underground State, as the sole representative of the Polish people, did not participate in any killing, and participated in quite many rescues of Jews. Regardless of other political positions, these are basic facts, and it is sickening that the current relativistic discourse relies on obscuring these facts. One can produce a legitimate critique of the Polish state based on it not having done "enough" to rescue Jews -- which depends on debatable definitions of what is "enough" (it's not enough that they supplied Jewish partisans with arms, that they helped Jews flee Poland, that they got their own people into Auschwitz to see what was going on there etc. etc.), but it is at least a superficially honest point. One cannot move from that sort of criticism and imply that the Polish people and/or State, together or separately, are responsible for the Holocaust. It is simply dishonest to do so, no matter how many time Haaretz and the Guardian produce articles repeating the nonsense.
And other than that, there is a debate on the numbers of people killed by pro-Nazi Poles. In that debate, the argument "believe this number, because I was allegedly threatened with death for publishing it" doesn't really work, and is instantly suspicious. What works are verifiable data. Dahn (talk) 18:24, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Btw, this article is about to fail DYK for yet another reason: the activity that has taken place since its nomination. The contributing editors seem to be mindful of each other's work, and take any issues they have to the talk page -- so this is not an edit war. However, the new additions are quite sloppy in matters of grammar and style, and the entire article would need a thorough copyedit when it reaches another stable version. Dahn (talk) 13:29, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
    It would seem, that in an atypical fashion, a number of editors have taken some interest in this article following the nomination - tagging POV shortly after nomination, adding quite a bit of content, as well as prompting the addition of counter-content (e.g. the BLP's responses to various pieces, or due to the extensive negative reviews added (including one from a website/blog) - balancing with positive reviews published in significant settings). However, one would expect that this editor attention would possibly form a higher quality article based on consensus. It is possible for articles to linger in such cases for DYK, and one would hope that a reasonable and well balanced consensus would form in short enough time - if need be after attracting editors less involved in the subject matter to balance POV.Icewhiz (talk) 13:37, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
I don't believe there's anything atypical about the interest taken in the article, given the claim advanced by the hook and the controversial nature of the topic -- what attracted them is probably the exact same thing you expected would get hits for the DYK entry. I also don't see why you wound insist on labeling the source for criticism of Grabowski as a website (no, it's not a blog) -- we've already clarified that the objection is not grounded in policy. The issue of quality is independent of such insinuations: it simply happens when(ever) there's a flurry of edits, particularly when the edits are not in the editors' native language. It also happens when the edits are done in a hurried fashion, which is arguably prompted by the fact that the article as you proposed it for DYK featured absolutely no negative commentary on Grabowski's work. Incidentally, your own recent additions to the text were hurriedly written, and could use a copyedit. (And no, I don't agree with their removal, though I do see some need for toning down and attributing the narrative voice.) Dahn (talk) 14:00, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
A copyedit is needed on recent editions. The website is UNDUE (when all other critiques (positive and negative) are from notable historians and/or in peer reviewed journals). The article did not have negative commentary originally - as I used English sources (3 out 4 added negative pieces are in Polish) and did not include op-eds (at least 3 out of 4 added negative pieces are not in peer reviewed journals). (I was aware of the Haaretz op-ed, I think, but I didn't add other op-eds pro or con back then - I did not delve into Polish sources). To date - I actually have been unable to find a serious critique in English (in a peer reviewed journal or even an English language newspaper) - I might have missed one - but I haven't found one. I did mention the existence of Polish criticism based on English coverage of the existence of the criticism. While WP:NOENG allows use of non-English sources - editors are not expected to be able to find and source non-English content (and while I may be able to source some of the Polish sources - it is much harder for me than other languages - I sourced a Polish language response to a Polish accusation as it was DUE and required per BLP policy).Icewhiz (talk) 14:36, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm not saying, not implying, that you were disingenuous in not putting in negative commentary, just that there factually wasn't any, and it is perfectly reasonable that other editors, who do not share Grabowski's thesis, would go looking for it. There's nothing controversial or scheming in this, just the expected confrontation of various ideas. And no, the "website" is not UNDUE, no matter how many times you repeat that: it is a reliable host for the claims it makes, which are by a reasonably qualified author (note that we don't even cite either for facts), and the whole critique fits within a paragraph; ignoring it would be UNDUE. But either way, there's no reason to ride the tails of my argument about copyedits by popularizing your claim about UNDUE here -- there's already a discussion about this on the talk page, anyone can find it. Dahn (talk) 14:51, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Fleurs de Marécage

  • Reviewed: I'm on it.

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 01:47, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

  • @Drmies: Have you gotten a chance to do QPQ? The hook is also a bit long and unwieldy. Perhaps
Alt1 ... that Dutch poet J. Slauerhoff's Fleurs de Marécage was published with some new poems in French and some translated from Dutch?
Meanderingbartender (talk) 19:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 21

Articles created/expanded on March 22

Edmonds station (Washington)

  • ... that Amtrak cancelled passenger train service to Edmonds station in 1971, only to return a year later? Source: "Amtrak will restore service to B.C.". The Seattle Times. June 30, 1972. p. A14. 
    • ALT1:... that the former baggage room of Edmonds station is now used by a model railroad club? The Seattle Times
    • ALT2:... that Amtrak threatened to have trains skip Edmonds station after the city withheld permits for new fences? Source: Schaefer, David; Wurzer, Wayne (May 9, 1995). "Amtrak run might bypass Edmonds". The Seattle Times. p. B1. 

5x expanded by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 04:52, 23 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 23

Phatik Chand (film)

  • ... that Phatik Chand (1983), the directorial debut movie of Sandip Ray, was based on a story written by his father Satyajit Ray? 1
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: Doing...

Created/expanded by Pinakpani (talk) and Titodutta (talk). Nominated by Titodutta (talk) at 21:42, 28 March 2018 (UTC).

Anvar Artykov

  • ... that Anvar Artykov was only one of three Uzbek politicians to be elected in the 2010 Kyrgyz parliamentary election, despite 14.5% of the Kyrgyz population at the time being ethnically Uzbek? [33]
    • ALT1:... that Kyrgyz politician Anvar Artykov spent less than a year representing the Ar-Namys in the Supreme Council of Kyrgystan before defecting to the majority coalition? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT2:... that Kyrgyz politician Anvar Artykov was elected the governor of Osh Region, only to be detained a day later?

Created by My name is not dave (talk). Self-nominated at 13:00, 27 March 2018 (UTC).

Alleged Libyan influence in the 2007 French elections

Andries van Eertvelt
Andries van Eertvelt

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 10:21, 23 March 2018 (UTC).

Natsu Dragneel

  • ... that the motion sickness of the character Natsu Dragneel was based on one of Fairy Tail author Hiro Mashima's friends? Source: [34] "Hiro Mashima: I'm actually afraid of heights and airplanes, but I don't have motion sickness. A friend of mine has that. When we take taxis together, he just gets sick. On one hand, it's bad for him, but on the other hand, it's kind of hilarious. (laughs)"

Improved to Good Article status by Flowerpiep (talk). Nominated by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) at 03:15, 23 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 24

Ayşe Sinirlioğlu

Source: "Turkey’s G20 Sherpa Ambassador Ayşe Sinirlioğlu addressed B20’s Inaugural Event Dinner" [35]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 10:13, 31 March 2018 (UTC).

Tyler Kinley

Converted from a redirect by Muboshgu (talk) and Malmmf (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 16:29, 28 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Converted redir with borrowed text that was sufficiently expanded, and nomination was on time. No neutrality or paraphrasing concerns. QPQ done. Some of the 2016–2017 team names were not verifiable based on existing cited sources. It would be preferable to have closer citations to the actual sentences, instead of bundling multiple sentences to the Washington Post and Star-Tribune sources. At a minimum, something like the MiLB profile could be cited to that whole bundle if you elect not to move citations around.—Bagumba (talk) 11:49, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @Bagumba: I can fix that soon, but maybe not until Monday. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:48, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Oh poop I never fixed this did I? On it... – Muboshgu (talk) 19:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Bagumba: This should be fine now. I used the MiLB profile in an additional place. The WaPo (really AP) piece does convey some of the 2016 stats. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:36, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I did a copyedit to address remaining ref concerns with team names and wording about career stats. Your hooks are sourced OK. However, what would you consider 1) changing main hook to just "... is the great-great-great nephew of former U.S. President William McKinley?" (less verbose, minor WP:OVERLINK concerns for a hook) or ALT1 to "... surname from "McKinley" after the assassination of the 25th President of the United States?" (overlink of surname, less repetitious and more intrigue with not repeating "McKinley" and the president's name)?—Bagumba (talk) 08:23, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Christopher Little Literary Agency

5x expanded by Violetriga (talk). Self-nominated at 17:46, 24 March 2018 (UTC).

Louise Mitchell

Moved to mainspace by Grangehilllover (talk). Nominated by Soaper1234 (talk) at 19:47, 29 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 25

Zeke Upshaw

  • ... that after playing sparingly with Illinois State, basketball player Zeke Upshaw transferred to Hofstra and led the Colonial Athletic Association in scoring? Source: "Upshaw elected to stay close to home after graduating from high school, but couldn’t crack the rotation in three years with the Redbirds, never averaging more than 7.4 minutes per game."[36] "With a degree in hand and one year left to play, Upshaw transferred to Hofstra to make something out of an ordinary career."[37] "He had averaged only 2.5 points in his senior year at Illinois State, but with a year of eligibility remaining, he became the Colonial Athletic Association’s leading scorer with a 19.8 average.[38]
  • Reviewed: IOU

Created by NBA Fan44 (talk) and Bagumba (talk). Nominated by Bagumba (talk) at 16:30, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

Archery, Georgia

Jimmy Carter in 1937
Jimmy Carter in 1937
  • ... that U.S. President Jimmy Carter spent the majority of his childhood on a farm in Archery, Georgia?
    • ALT1:... that U.S. President Jimmy Carter grew up at Archery, Georgia on his family's farm from age four, in 1928, until he left for college in 1941?

Created by Gilliam (talk). Self-nominated at 04:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • New enough and long enough (barely), neutral and well cited. Hook is cited, verified, and meets requirements. No image to check. Article did have a stub tag which I removed. No other issues.
Symbol question.svg Will be good to go after QPQ review. MB 18:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Gosh, it's been years since I've done a DYK review. Please allow me some time.– Gilliam (talk) 04:43, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Daroji Eramma

  • ... that Daroji Eramma, a performer of Burra katha, received the Karnataka Rajyotsava Award? 1
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Prm 1302 (talk) and Kannaki.deka (talk). Nominated by Titodutta (talk) at 21:19, 28 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg. The article is new and created by new editors. There article is few characters short of standard 1500 which can be fulfilled by converting Award section in prose. The article is underlinked. It also needs some reorganising, grammar corrections, removal of minor puffery. QPQ pending. Hook is OK but a hook about her memory (12 epics/7000 pages) can be more interesting.-Nizil (talk) 11:59, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you, will check --Titodutta (talk) 12:41, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
@Prm 1302, Kannaki.deka, and Titodutta:, its been a week almost. No edits or updates yet. Just a reminder.-Nizil (talk) 20:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
  •  Working --Titodutta (talk) 15:56, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
  • User:Nizil Shah, made some changes, IMHO, if we convert the award section to prose, there will be too many repetitions "she won this award" and "she won that award." I have added QPQ. --Titodutta (talk) 09:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
@Titodutta:, thank you for completing the copyediting. I think currently awards are present in all three sections with repetitions . They can be brought together in one section. The prose would make it represent better by referring who presented the award and when. Studies on her should not be under career section. Her lead section does not summarize the main text but includes some additional info. So please make a section titled Life followed by Recognition (which can also include studies on her). I also propose that the hook should point to some better info like her memory instead of an award because that will make more people to read about her. I have also found some additional information in references which can be included in the article. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 10:50, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I have done some copyediting and some reorganisation. How does it look now? can you propose alternative hook?-Nizil (talk) 11:29, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Transcriptomics technologies

Improved to Good Article status by Rohan Lowe (talk) and Evolution and evolvability (talk). Nominated by Rohan Lowe (talk) at 00:19, 27 March 2018 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Promoted to GA Mar 26, 2018, nominated Mar 27, 2018. Length is good. Not a prior DYK. All main-text paragraphs cited, though the figures on Microarray and sequencing flow cell and Heatmap identification of gene co-expression patterns across different samples are uncited summaries of the text or another page. Made some minor copyedits. Neutral. Per Earwig's Copyvio Detector, 61.7% violation detected, but this refers to the Lowe R et al article in PLOS Computational Biology that this Wikipedia article was published under. However, per this source, there is a direct-quote copyvio in the lead. The hook (ALT0) is cited, interesting, correct per the source, and <200 characters. No pictures used. No QPQ required, as this is nominator's first DYK nomination. On a personal note, this is a very comprehensive (albeit technical) article, and it was a pleasure to read. My compliments to the authors. ―Biochemistry🙴 09:00, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 26

Oakley Street, Chelsea

Oakley Street
Oakley Street

* ... that during a 1970s miners' strike, the interior of David Bowie's four storey "sexual cocoon" Chelsea house (pictured) was painted black, so he could "understand what it would be like to live in a coalmine"?

  • ALT1... that during a miners' strike in the 1970s, David Bowie painted the inside of his house in Oakley Street black, so he could understand what it would be like to live in a coalmine?
  • Reviewed: not yet done, photograph of actual house coming soon

Created by Edwardx (talk), Philafrenzy (talk), and Proscribe (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 20:52, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment only I have struck my original hook, as the ALT1 is better. Edwardx (talk) 11:14, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, striking the Alt as there are no strong sources for it, just a load of weak ones copying each other. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:03, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

ALT2... that Oscar Wilde, Robert Falcon Scott, David Bowie, and Bob Marley all lived in Oakley Street (pictured), Chelsea?

  • General eligiblity:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY

QPQ: ????
Overall: Symbol question.svg Interesting road. All appears good, copyvio <10%, sources all appear RS. Not sure about metro ref.19 but information is cited in biography ref 18. Checked all those people lived there. Just QPQ needed. Enjoyable read. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:38, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Note, London could be substituted for Chelsea. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:18, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Here's a different way of putting it:

ALT3... that Oscar Wilde, Robert Falcon Scott, David Bowie, and Bob Marley all lived in the same street?

Thanks for sorting and I like (ALT3) the idea of having to click on the same street to see street name. Just QPQ needed now then ok. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Castroville Historic District

A historic Alsatian home in the Castroville Historic District

Created by Bryanrutherford0 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:56, 29 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 27

Fallet Kevin

Created by BabbaQ (talk). Self-nominated at 17:30, 30 March 2018 (UTC).

  • I don't think that the word "murder" should appear in the hook since it has never been proved to be a murder, even though the brothers were coerced to confess to murder. cart-Talk 12:58, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
+1; this is an issue in our articles about killings that I have been pursuing for a while in discussions, and in how I name the articles I have created about such killings where no conviction for murder is currently valid.

Cart, I presume Swedish law makes the same distinction as American law: that "murder" is something only a trier of fact or guilty plea can determine; otherwise the event is a homicide? Daniel Case (talk) 05:13, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm no expert on the legalese in such cases, and everyday Swedish does not have as many nuanced word as English. In common-speak we call both "mord" but in court they different them into "mord" and "dråp"(archaic). In this case, an accident has not been ruled out; it is currently one of the foremost theories and the whole thing is usually just referred to as "the death of...". cart-Talk 10:45, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Penny Rose

  • Reviewed: Pending

5x expanded by Ruby2010 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:49, 30 March 2018 (UTC).

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol question.svg As noted above in the checklist, this article does not satisfy the guideline under "Article point 1" for eligibility. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:09, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Favre1fan93, this article has been properly expanded. Before I began my expansion, the article had 306 characters. When I finished, it had 2441 characters. I suggest manually comparing the character counts, since the DYK tool only looks at expansion "within the past 10 days (12 days)". Ruby2010 (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
@Ruby2010: My apologies. I'm not sure why I overlooked the first of your edits on March 27, and only looked to the additions starting on March 30. That being the case, yes this article and DYK is eligible. Just waiting on the QPQ, and then this will be good to go. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Jeju Oreum

  • ... that Jeju Oreum is an area of outstanding natural beauty in South Korea?

Created/expanded by Yeon So Jeong (talk) and Na Jieun (talk). Nominated by Yeon So Jeong (talk) at 08:06, 18 December 2017 (UTC).

  • Note: this nomination was not transcluded after it was created, but after being contacted a couple of days ago, nominator Yeon So Jeong has expressed a desire that it be revived, which typically DYK allows for untranscluded nominations. So even though this will be filed under 27 March 2018, the newness should be based on the original nomination date of 18 December 2017. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:31, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Ordinaire (wine bar)

Ordinaire storefront in Oakland, California
Ordinaire storefront in Oakland, California
  • ... that Ordinaire (pictured), a wine bar in Oakland, California, opened while its owner was writing a dissertation on the sense of taste in modernist literature? Source: "Owner Bradford Taylor opened Ordinaire while pursuing a Ph.D at the University of California, Berkeley with a dissertation on the sense of taste in early 20th century modernist literature." (in the lead); "Taylor opened Ordinaire while he was a doctoral candidate at UC Berkley, writing his dissertation on the sense of taste in modernist literature, or specifically, on [quote from source]" (in the "History" section). (Sources: San Francisco Chronicle and Sprudge)

Created by Brandt Luke Zorn (talk). Self-nominated at 19:48, 27 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 28

Articles created/expanded on March 29

Conflicts of interest in academic publishing

  • Comment: I don't think an image of a journal supplement would add much, but if we need images I could probably dig one up

Created by HLHJ (talk). Self-nominated at 23:59, 30 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 30

Hark, Hark! The Dogs Do Bark

Illustration accompanying an early 19th-century publication of "Hark, Hark! The Dogs Do Bark"
Illustration accompanying an early 19th-century publication of "Hark, Hark! The Dogs Do Bark"
  • ... that a theory dating the nursery rhyme Hark, Hark! The Dogs Do Bark to the aftermath of the Norman conquest of England was described as "ingenious if somewhat addlepated"? Source: Grace Rhys, Cradle Songs and Nursery Rhymes, page xvii. "Perhaps the most absurd of them all is one ... containg an ingenious if somewhat addlepated theory invented by Mr. Bellenden Ker."

Improved to Good Article status by NewYorkActuary (talk). Self-nominated at 15:18, 2 April 2018 (UTC).

Alonzo Ward Hotel

Alonzo Ward Hotel in 2015
Alonzo Ward Hotel in 2015
  • Reviewed: QPQ still to come

Moved to mainspace by Chris857 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:59, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, in time, long enough, sourced, one inline hook citation accepted AGF (paywall), no apparent copyvios. Chris857, QPQ needed, and the sentence beginning with "From 2002 through 2004" needs an inline citation. --Usernameunique (talk) 13:11, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Usernameunique: I'm finally back from traveling, and should get to the qpq review in the next few days. Chris857 (talk) 00:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Edmond Genet

Edmond Genet taken halfway through his training to become a fighter pilot
Edmond Genet taken halfway through his training to become a fighter pilot

Source:" ...he rounded out a brief but beautiful life and was the first American airman to fall in battle flying the Stars and Stripes." Second col [39] "Genet was the first American to be killed after the United States declared war upon Germany."[40]

"Edmond Genet deliberately deserted the United States navy, but he did so in order to enter a greater thing the war." page xviii [41]

  • Comment: Some sources are saying he was the first American. It might be true but safer to say he was the first flier.

5x expanded by Meanderingbartender (talk) and Danny (talk). Nominated by Meanderingbartender (talk) at 01:17, 31 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 31

Inori Minase

  • ... that Inori Minase participated in a voice acting audition after her mother read an advertisement for it in a magazine? Source: [42] "水瀬 デビューのきっかけは、今所属している事務所のオーディションを受けたことです。それも自分の意思ではなく、母が雑誌で見つけてきて。" "声優の養成所に入ることも検討していたのですが、お母さんに「まだ若いんだし挑戦してみようよ!」と言われてオーディションを受けたところ、結果的に合格しました。"
    • ALT1:... that Inori Minase began aspiring to become a voice actor at the age of six? Source: [43] "━━声優になりたいとはっきり意識したのは何歳ぐらいですか?水瀬 6歳とか。"
    • ALT2:... that Inori Minase became interested in voice acting after reading a pamphlet of a stage play adaptation of an anime? Source: [44] "ある時に、その作品の劇場版アニメを観にいった時に、パンフレットに声優さんのお名前が載っているのを見て、「この人、誰だろう?」と思ったんですね。幼い私からすれば、アニメの中のキャラクターも現実で生きていると思っていたので、母と父に聞いたら、「声優という職業があって、アニメのキャラを演じる中の人なんだよ」と。"

5x expanded by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:52, 31 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 1

Shmerke Kaczerginski

Created by Copper Dreamer (talk). Self-nominated at 19:11, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Good topic and article eligible, but sentence needs clarification and specification. (When? Where?) Also needs source attached to nomination.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 14:38, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Copper Dreamer: Still needs to be a bit more specific. What country or countries of Europe? What format were the songs (sheet music? rare book collections? audio format? were they the only copies? Was this a one-time thing or did he save different songs many times? Did he just memorize them?) Also may want to describe who Shmerke Kaczerginski is. (perhaps start off with ...Shmerke Kaczerginski, a musician... or something like that.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 17:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
  • A mix of sheet music and having people sing to him, all over Europe. It's hard to both have a hyper-specific and descriptive sentence that simultaneously only uses one source; are composites from multiple sources acceptable? Copper Dreamer (talk) 18:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Of course! Both of the nominations I've written have two sources. Use the ALT2 template for the new re-write.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 19:12, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
  • The template to indicate the nomination is reworded and re-written.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:17, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Nicole Girard-Mangin

Nicole Girard-Mangin
Nicole Girard-Mangin
  • ... that Nicole Girard-Mangin was the first women doctor to become an officer in the French army and she was initally paid at the same rate as a nurse? Source: "...that would set her on course to becoming the first French woman doctor to attain a military rank"[45] On pay "... in terms of money and status she was only equivalent to a frontline nurse."[46]"

Created by Meanderingbartender (talk). Self-nominated at 21:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg First nomination by nominator so QPQ not needed. Earwig found no significant copying. New enough, long enough, with an interesting hook. Well sourced, and hook sourcing verified. The image's claim to be PD appears valid. Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:08, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Train graveyard

A train at the Uyuni train graveyard
A train at the Uyuni train graveyard
Abandoned trains in Hungary
Abandoned trains in Hungary

Created by Violetriga (talk). Self-nominated at 22:42, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg A very interesting hook, but I would suggest you add an image to your hook, to add to the "hookiness". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:23, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the review. Unfortunately I don't think that any of the available images look any good at the required size. violet/riga [talk] 18:39, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Unless File:Uyuni Décembre 2007 - Cimetière de Trains 1.jpg could be cropped? violet/riga [talk] 19:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I've done that now. violet/riga [talk] 22:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
@Violetriga: Does File:Istvántelki_Főműhely_6.JPG not work? It was my preference to be honest. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:06, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I see what you're saying and have added it above. My concern is that it's a little difficult to see what it is, but then that might be a good thing. violet/riga [talk] 12:57, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Article was created on the day it was nominated, and it meets the length requirements. Earwigs detected no copyright problems. All images in the article are appropriately licensed. QPQ provided. However, the lead is completely unsourced. While references in the lead is usually optional, it's not in this particular case, particularly on the information regarding Woodham Brothers or the information about train graveyards being different from abandoned railways. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
    • The Woodham Brothers content was added recently by someone else and I've now worked it into the article. Given that abandoned railway clearly defines that as "a railway line which is no longer used for that purpose" as opposed to "where trains and rolling stock are discarded" I don't see why a reference would be needed - I think it's quite self-explanatory? violet/riga [talk] 12:37, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Poulsbo Bread

  • Reviewed: forthcoming

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 07:00, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Page created on 1 April, meets required prose size and is well written and referenced. No copyvio concerns and the hook is interesting and inline sourced within the article. Once the user has submitted a QPQ review, this will be ready to go. Kosack (talk) 07:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 2

Mollie Lentaigne

Illustration of a Thiersch Graft by Mollie Lentaigne
Illustration of a Thiersch Graft by Mollie Lentaigne

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 09:28, 4 April 2018 (UTC).

Automobile graveyard

Created by Violetriga (talk). Self-nominated at 17:48, 2 April 2018 (UTC).

Anatolie Popa

  • ... that, after being sentenced to death for resisting the Romanian military intervention, the Moldavian officer Anatolie Popa was pardoned and offered a position in the Romanian Army? Source: "After the occupation of Bessarabia by the Romanians, [Popa] was sentenced to death, but, in the hope of attracting him, King Ferdinand cancelled the sentence and invited him to enter the service of the Romanian army" in Nazaria 2012, p. 209 (originally in Romanian, translated by nominator)
    "given the tremendous authority of the Moldovan revolutionary officer among the masses, his professional qualities, the Romanian administration quashed the death sentence and invited Anatoly Vasilyevich [Popa] to transfer to the royal army." in Polivțev 2017, p. 388 (originally in Russian, translated by nominator)
  • Reviewed: Excepted, since it's my 2nd nomination

Created by Anonimu (talk). Self-nominated at 15:21, 2 April 2018 (UTC).

U Don't Know Me (Basement Jaxx song)

Created/expanded by Beyoncetan 2 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:49, 2 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Not giving this a full review but I will say that hook is completely unacceptable as it is a WP:BLP violation the way it is written and we definitely should not be using a picture of the Queen with it as the real Queen certainly did not do that. A new hook will be needed. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 22:53, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
I've fixed the hook. Beyoncetan 2 (talk) 23:13, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 3

2018–19 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by DetroitFan7 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:13, 9 April 2018 (UTC).

N.B.: This article was co-edited by User:TonyTheTiger.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:52, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 4

Gilmore the lion, Gilmore Oil Company

  • Reviewed: to be done.
  • Comment: The hook can be confirmed online at the Smithsonian. This is a double nomination and I plan further expansion of the two articles but this should do to get started.

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk) and Rmattconard (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 23:05, 11 April 2018 (UTC).

Melinda Paulsen

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:42, 11 April 2018 (UTC).

  • I will review this.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:12, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
  • New enough (one week).
  • Long enough.
  • Needs more in-line references.
  • To be continued...Zigzig20s (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
  • User:Gerda Arendt: You've reverted my edit because you think there isn't enough about her "early life", which is fair enough, but could you please in-line the reference at the end of each sentence? When you only add a reference at the end of the paragraph, nobody knows if the entire paragraph is referenced or only the last sentence.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:32, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Not even in a FA would I do that ;) - We need them only at the end of the sentence(s) for the hook, - please check the rules. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Right now it's impossible to know which reference tells us she graduated in 1988 and 1991 for example.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
You go to the next ref that comes, and find two, and it should be in both. - Only quotations require a citation right behind them, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
User:Gerda Arendt: I don't think the Bach Cantatas Website is a reliable source, is it? It looks like a personal fansite.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:28, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
It's not a fansite but the most detailed Website on the topic, quoted in books. In this article, it's there for readers who don't read German. It never supports a biographic fact alone. If you want to make life more difficult for people not reading German, put it to External links. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
The other reference does not mention Swarthmore College, does it?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:56, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
You are right, it caters for German readers who won't know that name. Found another ref, - it's in her standard bio, + no contentious fact anyway ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
This does not look like a reliable source either, and this one is not third-party, just an online store, isn't it?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC) is highly respected (and we just had a hook about Julian podger, mentioning that same recording), and the other is a record publisher, and again: is there anything contentious about where she studied? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:57, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
  • The hook is fine. The only problem is that it's cited with her faculty webpage, instead of a truly third-party source. Are there not more sources about this woman in newspapers or books?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Relatively young opera singers are not normally covered in books. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:57, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
The "first recording" is supported my the recordings. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg There's really a problem with references in this article. is not an RS. Can you please find better references? I am happy to OK it once you have done that.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:19, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Do I understand right that you doubt the fact that she studied at Swarthmore College? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Just read what I wrote. kuk-art is not an RS. Can you not find one? It's OK to cite German newspapers if that's all you can find, as they would reliable third-party sources and most browsers will translate the text automatically.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:54, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I just spent a few hours updating an article for Recent deaths. In comparison, this issue is of minor importance. I also have a GA nomination overdue. Please accept that it doesn't matter who says that she studied in Swarthmore if it's clear and uncontentious that she did, or wait. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Why doesn't her faculty webpage mention it? This is weird. It wouldn't be third party, but at least it would be reliable.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:14, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Read further up: "it caters for German readers who won't know that name". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Ocean City Life-Saving Station (New Jersey)

  • ... that the Ocean City Life-Saving Station began operations in 1886, and was owned by the United States Coast Guard until 1945 when it was sold to become a private residence? Source: [47] "The Ocean City Life-Saving Station was used as a coastal rescue station by the U.S. Life-Saving Service between 1886 and 1915... "It was then closed and turned over to the General Services Administration for disposal and was sold for use as a single-family residence in October 1945.

Created by Hurricanehink (talk). Self-nominated at 21:47, 4 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 5

Low Country Sound, RCA Studio A

Created/expanded by Sirsentence (talk) and SoWhy (talk). Nominated by SoWhy (talk) at 18:02, 5 April 2018 (UTC).

Issuf Sanon

Issuf Sanon
Issuf Sanon
  • ... that Issuf Sanon went from a locally unknown basketball player to a serious NBA draft prospect in just over a week? Source: "Sanon was virtually unknown even in Ukraine until last summer" ([48])
    • ALT1:... that appendix and ankle injuries, along with documentation issues, delayed Issuf Sanon from joining the Ukraine national basketball team? Source: "...he had never played with the junior national team due to a lack of official documentation as well as an ankle injury." ([49]), Source: "...Sanon, who was not with the 1999-born team at the U16 level in 2015 because of an appendix injury..." ([50])

5x expanded by TempleM (talk). Self-nominated at 22:13, 5 April 2018 (UTC).

Bingo Bango

Created/expanded by Beyoncetan 2 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:34, 5 April 2018 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting track, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. I suggest you reword the hook to have Bingo Bango upfront, - readers who don't know group and members might lost interest before even getting there. I think it might be even more attractive that they closed live performances with the song. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 6

Vasiura Hryhoriy

  • ... that after the war Hryhoriy Vasiura, a Nazi-collaborator and executioner of Khatyn massacre, pretended a Red Army veteran and even instructed young Soviet pioneers in patriotism until being arrested in 1984? Source: ". Like many other collaborators, Vasiura passed himself off as a Soviet patriot who had fought the Germans as a connection officer at the front. As a veteran and supposed war hero, he even instructed young Soviet pioneers in patriotism." ([51])

Created by Катала (talk). Self-nominated at 16:31, 6 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Really needs grammar fixes. How about this?
ALT1... that after World War II Vasiura Hryhoriy, a Nazi-collaborator and executioner of Khatyn massacre, pretended to be a Red Army veteran and instructed young pioneers in patriotism until his arrest in 1984? Source: ". Like many other collaborators, Vasiura passed himself off as a Soviet patriot who had fought the Germans as a connection officer at the front. As a veteran and supposed war hero, he even instructed young Soviet pioneers in patriotism." ([52])

--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 19:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Yurika (musician)

  • ... that Japanese musician Yurika was inspired to become a singer for anime after hearing the song "Genesis of Aquarion" by Akino in a television commercial? Source: [53] "YURiKA:小学校6年生の時にAKINOさんが歌う「創聖のアクエリオン」(アニメ『創聖のアクエリオン』主題歌)がCMで流れていて。CMって普段なんとなく見てるじゃないですか。でもその時にサビの歌詞とメロディがドカンと来て。この数秒間でこんなに興味をそそられるのってアニソンしかない、とその時に思って。それで「歌手」というより「アニソンを歌う人」になりたいと決めてました。"

Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:47, 6 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 7

Stilt (ceramics)

Created by Geni (talk). Self-nominated at 14:14, 13 April 2018 (UTC).

Charles P. Mattocks

Union POW's, including Major Charles P. Mattocks
Union POW's, including Major Charles P. Mattocks
  • that Medal of Honor Recipient Charles Mattocks (pictured) was born in Danville, Vermont, and imprisoned in Danville, Virginia as a POW during the US Civil War? Source: [54]

Moved to mainspace by Vermont (talk). Self-nominated at 01:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC).

Blanche McVeigh

  • Reviewed: To be done shortly.
  • Comment: This was a draft moved over a stub, expanding he stub by more than 5x. The stub was also less than a month old, and some text from the stub was merged in. Molly628 was the creator of the stub, SaturdayLibrarian was the creator of the draft, and I (DESiegel) polished the draft, accepted it, and did the merge.

5x expanded by SaturdayLibrarian (talk), DESiegel (talk), and Molly628 (talk). Nominated by DESiegel (talk) at 14:10, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

Benjamin Ladraa

Created by TheGracefulSlick (talk). Self-nominated at 00:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

The Man Who Made Husbands Jealous (film)

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 12:37, 7 April 2018 (UTC).

RFU Intermediate Cup

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 08:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC).

Oregon Emergency Board

Source: The May 1916 Summary of Emergency Board Action says (bottom of column 1 on p. 2) the board "allocated $2 million … for state and local government costs associated with the takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County."

Created by Orygun (talk). Self-nominated at 02:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 8

Mason Morgan

  • Reviewed: RedditGifts
  • Comment: Please feel free to tweak the hook, or suggest another.

Moved to mainspace by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:22, 10 April 2018 (UTC).

Nagi Yanagi

  • ... that as a child, Nagi Yanagi became interested in music after playing with an electronic keyboard her mother originally intended to throw away? Source: [55] "幼稚園の頃、近所の人が「捨てるつもりの電子オルガンがあるんだけど、誰かいる?」って言っていたのを聞いた母が、なぜかそれをもらってきちゃったのがきっかけです(笑)。"
    • ALT1:... that Japanese musician Nagi Yanagi was encouraged in junior high school to become a voice actress by a classmate, but declined because of her belief that her voice was "mediocre"? Source: [56] "中学時代、すごく特徴的ないい声をした声優志望の友達がいて、ずっとその声を聞いていたから「自分の声って平凡だな」っていう気がしていて。歌モノを投稿してみた理由も「がんばってオケを打ち込んだことだし、せっかくだから歌も入れてみようかな。歌うこと自体は好きだし」ってくらいのものだったから「あれっ!? 打ち込みよりも声に注目が集まってる」って感じではあったんですけど(笑)、やっぱりうれしかったですね。"
    • ALT2:... that Japanese singer Nagi Yanagi served as the music producer for the anime series Just Because!? Source: [57]

Improved to Good Article status by Juhachi (talk), Narutolovehinata5 (talk), and Msonnyandrean (talk). Nominated by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) at 23:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

Triangular corner flags in English football

Triangular corner flag
Triangular corner flag

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 15:32, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg A fairly interesting hook, but I have concerns about the notability of the topic: only the New York Times article appears to focus specifically on triangular corner flags, while the other sources only mention it in passing as part of wider coverage on the FA Cup. Honestly, I'm not sure if the topic is notable in the first place; I'll have to ask WP:FOOTBALL about this. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
  • It's not necessarily governed by WP:FOOTY as it isn't a player, club or league, it comes under WP:GNG. It's a part of English football culture and the sources do put predominant emphasis on the tradition despite the article may not be solely about them. For example, the Telegraph source is stating that AFC Wimbledon used triangle corner flags as they were claiming they were the true successors of Wimbledon and not MK Dons. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:39, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Considering Corner flag itself is not a separate article but a redirect, there might be something wrong with that assessment. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
This isn't predominatly about the flags, it is about the tradition and culture behind it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:54, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Bertil Almgren, Oscar Almgren, Sune Lindqvist, Mårten Stenberger

Source: Gräslund 2012: It's in Swedish, but the relevant info (from paragraphs 2–4) is Google translated here

5x expanded by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 02:00, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

Oscar Almgren: "He was also the son of Bertil Almgren, ..."
Bertil Almgren: "Bertil Almgren was ... the son of Oscar Almgren, ..."
  • Symbol question.svg I see Oscar is elder than Bertil, so can you remove "He was also the son of Bertil Almgren, ..." in Oscar Almgren and replace it with the correct sentence? Hanamanteo (talk) 05:51, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

List of Casualty specials

Created by Soaper1234 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:43, 9 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 9

Report to the Secretary on the Acquiescence of This Government in the Murder of the Jews

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 04:46, 17 April 2018 (UTC).

Piano Quartets (Beethoven)

  • ... that Beethoven composed three Piano Quartets at age 15, which were published in reverse order after his death? Source: several
  • Reviewed: Bingo Bango
  • Comment: I began the article about just one, but the longer I wrote the more it seemed to make sense to deal with them together. Will add details about the other two. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:22, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I definitely agree these 3 should be in one article. I'm surprised there isn't one already, just goes to show Wikipedia work never ends :-) Although the article is important, long enough (4595), no copyvio [58], new enough (Apr 9), and properly referenced, I don't think it's quite ready yet for prime time until each quartet has it's own (short) description. I took the liberty of laying out the movements in sections just to frame it, and added a reference... hope I did it the way you prefer. I'll change review to green once you've updated them. Ultracobalt (talk) 06:43, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Oops forgot to add that the hook is just fine Ultracobalt (talk) 06:47, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
I agree but will travel for a week, and this seems not urgent, after all these centuries. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Indeed :) Ultracobalt (talk) 18:50, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

El Piñal

Created by Underbar dk (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 05:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Royal Turf Club of Thailand

  • ... that spectators without proper footwear used to have to rent shoes to attend races at the Royal Turf Club of Thailand? Source: "กิจการที่โดดเด่นเป็นเอกลักษณ์ของสนามม้าก็คือ ธุรกิจให้เช่ากล้องส่องทางไกล และรองเท้าหุ้มส้น ด้วยว่าสนามม้ามีกฎระเบียบให้แต่งกายสุภาพ โดยเฉพาะห้ามสวมรองเท้าแตะ กิจการชั่วคราวนี้จึงถือกำเนิดขึ้นคู่สนามม้ามานับสิบๆ ปีแล้ว แต่ในปัจจุบันความเข้มงวดของกฎดังกล่าวได้ผ่อนคลายลง จึงมีผู้ใช้บริการเช่ารองเท้าน้อยลง ส่งผลให้พ่อค้าแม่ค้าต้องปรับตัวหันมาให้เช่ากล้องส่องทางไกลแทน"[59] (In Thai, but see CNN Travel for description of a similar arrangement at another course.)

Created by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:57, 13 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The full review is to follow, but I'm not exactly sure if the hook proposed here is "hooky" enough; from experience, people requiring specific footwear and renting such footwear when going to certain places is not uncommon (for example, bowling alleys have similar policies for players). Indeed, it appears to be the norm at Thai racing courses, so it isn't specific to this one. As a suggestion, perhaps a hook about this phrase ("The club would also become known as Sanam Thai (the "Thai racecourse"), as opposed to the Sanam Farang ("Farang racecourse") at the RBSC, reflecting the split of the clubs' clients between Thais and Westerners") or a hook about the club being popular among Thai politicians could work too. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:44, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
    • I can't quite think up a politics-related hook that will be succinct enough. How about the following Alts below? The shoe thing still seems quite interesting to me, though—maybe we could leave it as an option for the promoter to decide. (I also originally entertained the thought of making ALT3 a triple nomination, but decided to nominate the RBSC article separately, as it has a more interesting fact.) --Paul_012 (talk) 12:17, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Louise Antonini

  • ... that Louise Antonini disguised herself as a man to join the French Navy and Napoleon's army for 25 years before reaching the rank of sergeant? Source: In french but is translationable via google[60]

Created by Meanderingbartender (talk). Self-nominated at 10:44, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

Robert Pitcairn (athlete)


Created by Violetriga (talk). Self-nominated at 23:55, 10 April 2018 (UTC).

Gregg Pilling

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 21:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC).

Nikki Sievwright

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Self-nominated at 20:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 10

Märchenerzählungen (Schumann)

Pianist Clara Schumann in 1853
Pianist Clara Schumann in 1853
  • ... that Clara Schumann (pictured) noted in her diary in 1853 that her husband was very happy about completing his Märchenerzählungen, fairy-tale music for piano, clarinet and viola? Source: several
  • Reviewed: Wendreda
  • Comment: The composer threw himself from a bridge a week after he could give the printed work to the dedicatee, - but we have enough drama on the Main page ;) - I like that the image is from the very year she wrote that, - and it's not well known, not in her article.

Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:51, 17 April 2018 (UTC).

Owen Harding Wangensteen

Created by Whispyhistory (talk), Iainmacintyre (talk), and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 19:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Fordyce Academy

  • ... that George Smith left money to establish a school for poor children named Smith?
    Source: Reports from Commissioners, Volume 29 (1868), pp. 324—325 [quoted in footnote]
  • ALT1:... that a number of Swedes took advantage of their right to be educated at Fordyce Academy in Scotland under the terms of the "Smith Bounty"?
    Source: Alexander Allan Cormack, Susan Carnegie, 1744-1821: Her Life of Service (1966), p. 152 [quoted in footnote]

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 04:46, 15 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 11

Simplified Acquisition Procedures

  • ... that U.S. Vice President Al Gore smashed a glass ashtray on the Late Show with David Letterman to advocate for simplified government acquisition procedures?
    Source: "Vice President Al Gore had appeared on The Late Show to decry what he said was a government specification that glass ashtrays be tested for breakage over a maple plank to ensure that no more than 35 shards of glass broke apart... He and Letterman demonstrated the process before a cheering TV audience. " [65]

Moved to mainspace by Antony-22 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:44, 12 April 2018 (UTC).

Schweiz am Sonntag

  • ... that in Switzerland, national and cantonal councils members from seven parties filed a complaint with the Schweizer Presserat against Schweiz am Sonntag due to its reporting of politician Geri Müller's sexual conversations? Source:
    • ALT1:... that Swiss newspaper Schweiz am Sonntag was found to have violated the privacy of politician Geri Müller over an article it published in relation to Müller's sexual history? Source: Horizont

Created by Lucky102 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC).

George Speake

Horse head terminal from the Staffordshire helmet
Horse head terminal from the Staffordshire helmet
  • ... that George Speake is currently reconstructing the more than 1,000 pieces (one pictured) of the Anglo-Saxon Staffordshire helmet? Source: ICON 2016: "The last great discovery of the Hoard will be the final form of the helmet, currently worked on by George Speake and Chris Fern." Butterworth et al.: "The Anglo-Saxon Staffordshire Hoard contains, alongside the well-publicised gold and silver objects, a large collection of over 1000 fragments of die-impressed silver sheet.1 These gilded metal sheets, when pieced together with other structural fragments of the hoard, provide us with a large portion of what is considered to be a highly-decorated, high-status helmet."

5x expanded by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 03:13, 11 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Meh, doesn't seem notable enough for a DYK. Maybe need to add something about who this person is.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Not enough. The DYK would be full of "some person associated with some college who wrote some book". Besides, scholars have to reconstruct artifacts all the time. This is not the first scholar to do a thousand-piece "puzzle" and wont be that last. Not very interesting either.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 17:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • PlanespotterA320, if you would like to conduct the full review, consistent with the DYK criteria, in addition to the drive-by commentary please feel free, but otherwise I'm marking this as needing one. We all find different things interesting; planespotting doesn't interest me, for instance, but that would be a poor reason to hold up a DYK on the subject. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:24, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:24, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on April 12

Yang Gui

Created by Zanhe (talk) and Med Nyin (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 04:09, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Ray Straw

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 15:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

Sílvia Rebelo

Created/expanded by SirEdimon (talk). Self-nominated at 00:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC).

Kronans Apotek

  • ... that in 1967, sales in Kronans Apotek were amounted to 31,3 million SEK, of which 28 million SEK were to pharmacies?

Created by Newroderick895 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:05, 10 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 13

Bradenton Riverwalk

  • ... that the Bradenton Riverwalk attracts 100,000 people to the downtown Bradenton area every year? Source: [66] "Per the American for the Arts economic impact calculator, our 75+ events attract 100,000 people to downtown..."

Created by TheGridExe (talk). Self-nominated at 15:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

Quiz (play)

  • ... that the audience of the play, Quiz act as the jury for a fictionalised version of the Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? "Coughing Major"? Source: Independent

Converted from a redirect by Blethering Scot (talk), Alaney2k (talk), and The C of E (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 15:56, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Muehlenbeckia astonii

  • ... that the endangered New Zealand shrub Muehlenbeckia astonii is also known as zig-zag plant and wiggy-wig bush? Source: "It sometimes goes by the names wiggy-wig bush, zig zag plant, wirebrush, shrubby pōhuehue, or mingimingi (a generic term for many small-leaved shrubs)" (Given 2001 and Endangered Species Foundation (n.d.) respectively, cited in article)
    • ALT1:... that Muehlenbeckia astonii is a popular garden plant, but is endangered in the wild because many male and female plants are too far apart to cross-pollinate? Source: "In most of the sites it is known from there are only 1–3 old plants, and almost no seedlings: male and female flowers occur on separate plants and need to cross-pollinate, so isolated individuals cannot reproduce. Several small populations show no out-crossing because males and females are too far apart." Muehlenbeckia astonii, Shrubby tororaro (Muehlenbeckia astonii Petrie) recovery plan 2000–2010

5x expanded by Giantflightlessbirds (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Persian column

Top of Achaemenid column from Persepolis
Top of Achaemenid column from Persepolis

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, long enough, neutral, and well referenced. QPQ is done. Image is freely licensed. However, I could not verify the hook. I checked the sources linked above, and could not find one that explicitly says the first modern revivals were by Indian Parsis. Am I missing something? -Zanhe (talk) 05:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Ok try p. 59-60, and note 35, p. 68 on the first Indian source? Also, the Encyclopedia Iranica article on the period up to 1925 makes no mention of Achaemenid Revival architecture, because there wasn't any. There's this lecture, around 6:10-6:20, 23:15-26 and 32: from the same prof. Johnbod (talk) 18:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Joe Mayo

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 14:19, 15 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Not 5x expanded but looks like it meets the article length requirement per "had its prose portion expanded at least twofold" (it's a BLG). Article was a stub before it was expanded. ♫ TheGridExe (talk) 17:55, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
@TheGridExe: The prose stood at 237 when I started the expansion and is now at 2179 which is well over 5x expansion? Kosack (talk) 19:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
@Kosack: Thanks for the clarification! Yeah, I was saying it did meet the expansion requirement regardless so it should be good. I do like ALT1 better than the initial hook based on the aim of DYK but that might be more of my personal preference. I see either one meeting the criteria. Symbol confirmed.svgTheGridExe (talk) 20:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Royal Bangkok Sports Club

  • ... that in addition to being the oldest racecourse and second-oldest golf course in Thailand, the Royal Bangkok Sports Club also served as its first airfield? Source: [67], in Thai, but see also [68].

5x expanded by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:25, 15 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article was expanded fivefold within seven days of nomination, is over the required size and has no copyvio issues. The article is well written, suitably referenced and neutral. Hook is interesting, AGF on some of the sourcing due to offline and foreign language sources. User has submitted a QPQ review to meet the requirement. Good to go. Kosack (talk) 14:14, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Ranbir Kapoor filmography

Ranbir Kapoor in 2012
Ranbir Kapoor in 2012
  • Reviewed: TBD

Converted from a redirect by Krimuk2.0 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 14

Aphelinus mali

  • ... that the wasp Aphelinus mali is a parasitoid of the woolly apple aphid, a pest of apple trees? Source: "Aphelinus mali (Haldeman) is an important parasitoid of Eriosoma lanigerum (Hausmann)."

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:34, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

Erica Schwartz

Erica Schwartz
Erica Schwartz
  • Reviewed: To follow

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 10:18, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Dumelow, the hook is 230 characters long (spaces are included in DYK hook counts), well over the 200 max. While the list of disasters is impressive, it will need to be shorter. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks BlueMoonset. A couple of shorter ALTs follow. I will sort out a QPQ when I can - Dumelow (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Erica Schwartz provided health protection guidance for the US military's response to hurricanes, epidemics and an earthquake?
ALT2: ... that Erica Schwartz provided health protection guidance for the US military's response to Hurricane Katrina, the 2010 Haiti earthquake the Deepwater Horizon disaster and the West Africa Ebola outbreak?

Articles created/expanded on April 15

Kelly Lai Chen

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 04:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Papal conclave, 1689

Improved to Good Article status by TonyBallioni (talk). Self-nominated at 22:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC).

Ken Hodgkisson

Source: Walsall F.C.

  • Reviewed: Pending

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 12:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Let's Move Nashville

  • Reviewed: TBD
  • Comment: Should be held until after the election on May 1.

5x expanded by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 03:10, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Tower of History

Tower of History
Tower of History

Moved to mainspace by Michael Barera (talk). Self-nominated at 22:53, 15 April 2018 (UTC).

General eligiblity:

For an article moved to the mainspace, the "new"/"past seven days" criterion applies to the date the article was moved to the mainspace, not created in userspace, correct? Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

I've removed a couple cases of close paraphrasing; upon checking for copyvios now, it appears that nearly everything that is coming up now constitutes proper nouns. Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Initial hook is 208 characters long, but discounting the ... and (pictured) it is within the character limit. ALT1 is within the 200 character limit ALT1 hook is more interesting than the the initial hook
Good catch. I've struck out the primary hook, so we can just go with ALT1. Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

QPQ: Red XN - QPQ was done on 8 January, however the creator/nominator of the article has had 4 DYK credits since that QPQ, there it is unclear if there has been sufficient QPQs since then to count as one for this nomination

I "bank" my DYK reviews in my sandbox, and always try to have 4 of them in my bank at one time, which considering that I also try to submit one DYK nomination a month means that my QPQ reviews occur about 4 months before I use them for my nominations. You can check my sandbox history and see how they cycle through over time. Hopefully, this makes sense. Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, is 2,899 characters long, and appears to be well sourced. @Michael Barera: please clarify on the QPQ issue.

Thanks for the review, RightCowLeftCoast! I've addressed each of your questions above. Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC) RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg@Michael Barera: I will assume good faith on the bank thing, as I have not seen someone do that before. As for the move to mainspace, it's fine; just by moving it it doesn't show a clear delineation unless one knows where to look; again it's fine, just different from what I am use to seeing. On the copyvio, 12.3 is fine, but the additional edits helped. Another reviewer is now needed to recheck.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 16

Li Zhengyou

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 23:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Albert Shepherd

  • Reviewed: Pending

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 12:50, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Opémiska Community Hall fire

  • ... that when the Opémiska Community Hall fire broke out, people inside the room did not evacuate because they believed that the fire was part of a performance?

Source: [72] Page 37 of the document states "L’évacuation ne fut pas immédiate car des personnes ont pensé que cela faisait partie d’un spectacle et furent mises en confiance par les manoeuvres d’extinction" which translates to "The evacuation was not immediate because some people believed that they were witnessing a performance, a belief that rose in confidence by the vigorous attempt to extinguish the fire."

Created by Acebulf (talk). Self-nominated at 00:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Greta Arwidsson

5x expanded by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 01:41, 17 April 2018 (UTC).

Charlotte Serber

  • ... that Charlotte Serber created a library for the secret Project Y where one "was apt to find the librarian in blue jeans, one assistant in the best sweater girl tradition, another in strict WAAC uniform, and a third in the latest Lane Bryant number."? Source: Offline, but if you have a JSTOR account it is quoted here

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:26, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Goat Canyon (Tijuana River Valley)

Moved to mainspace by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 22:30, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 17

Pygmy eagle

5x expanded by SirCarbin (talk) and Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 20:26, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Night of the Strangler

  • ... that some moviegoers at Chicago's Loop Theater in 1972 wondered Is the Father Black Enough? Source: "The Loop premiered Is the Father Black Enough? on October 13, 1972." from Butters (2015), p. 91.
    • ALT1:... that there is no strangler in the 1972 film Night of the Strangler? (as a non-wordplay hook referring to the article-name title of this many-titled film) Source: "But there is no strangler! And nobody gets strangled! Of all the puzzles presented by the twist-filled picture, the most perplexing is why Houck and company chose to call it The Night of the Strangler." from David Sterritt, writing for TCM

Created/expanded by Squeamish Ossifrage (talk). Self-nominated at 17:10, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Matilde Fidalgo

Created/expanded by SirEdimon (talk). Self-nominated at 00:08, 17 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 18

Syracosphaera azureaplaneta

Created/expanded by Nick Moyes (talk). Self-nominated at 09:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article created within the last seven days, is over the required prose size and has no copyvio issues. The article is well written and suitably referenced and the hook is supported by an inline citation. User has submitted a QPQ review to meet the requirement. Hook is good to go. Kosack (talk) 19:38, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Special Counsel Independence and Integrity Act

  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Antony-22 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, in time, long enough, sourced. Antony-22, QPQ needed. Also, I assume the text of the bill is in the public domain (so no copyright issues), but it would be worth adding quotation marks under "Provisions" to show that it's the actual text of the bill's summary. Finally, how about "is intended to prevent"? Trump could always label the bill unconstitutional and fire Mueller anyways; it would provoke a court battle, but would nonetheless be Trump firing Mueller. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:26, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Interstate 678

  • ... that during the construction of New York City's Van Wyck Expressway, an apartment building was placed on metal rollers and relocated away from the expressway's path? Source: NY Times.
    • ALT1:... that the construction of New York City's Van Wyck Expressway required the relocation of an apartment building, so it was placed on metal rollers and relocated away from the expressway's path? Source: NY Times
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending
  • Comment: Unfortunately, since I couldn't find anything else that was particularly interesting, all the ALTs are a variation of the same fact.

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 21:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Gordana Garašić

  • Reviewed: To follow

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 11:28, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

SpellForce 3

Improved to Good Article status by SoWhy (talk). Self-nominated at 07:25, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 19

John G. Hawthorne

  • ... that John G. Hawthorne called it "pioneering" for the University of Chicago to not suppress a sit-in with the military? Source: Chicago Tribune 1969: "U.C. Prof Hails 'Pioneering' in Sit-In Policy: [As Hawthorne said,] 'Where other colleges here and abroad have called in the police, the national guard, the military, this university, dedicated as it is to the solution of problems by intellectual, reasoning, and patient 'confrontation' of human minds has arrived at a decent, fair, and honorable solution of this crisis.'"

Created by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 17:49, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

Queens–Midtown Tunnel

  • ... that at the time of its construction in the late 1930s, the Queens–Midtown Tunnel was the largest public works project in the U.S. that was not being undertaken by a federal agency? Source: NY Times 1936. "...the largest non-federal PWA project in the country." The PWA is American, and the Queens Midtown Tunnel is located in the U.S. (obviously by virtue of being in NYC).
    • ALT1:... that at the time of its construction in the late 1930s, the Queens–Midtown Tunnel was the United States' largest non-federal public works project? Source: NY Times 1936.
    • ALT2:... that U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt not only was present at the groundbreaking of the Queens–Midtown Tunnel, but also made the first vehicular trip through the completed tube? Source: Long Island City Daily Star. "On October 2, 1936, he came to Long Island City and broke ground for the start of the tunnel at a colorful ceremony. [...] Four years later the president came to New York for a one-day campaign tour. In the course of his one-day visit he found time to make the first official transit of the Queens-Midtown tunnel."
    • ALT3:... that the first person to use the Queens–Midtown Tunnel, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, was also present at the tunnel's groundbreaking ceremony? Source: Long Island City Daily Star.
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending
  • Comment: I'm still expanding this article, so the hook is a placeholder.

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 17:42, 19 April 2018 (UTC).


  • Reviewed: To follow

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 13:14, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

New England White

Author Stephen L. Carter in 2015
Author Stephen L. Carter in 2015

Created by Fish and karate (talk). Self-nominated at 11:44, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

Andreia Norton

  • ... that Portuguese international footballer Andreia Norton played her first professional match at the age of 13 and when she was 20 years old she scored the goal that qualified Portugal for a European Championship for the first time in history? (Source:Source 1, Source 2, Source 3)
    • ALT1:... that ? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created/expanded by SirEdimon (talk). Self-nominated at 02:07, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

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