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Outdated reference to Guatemala's Civil War

"Migrants from Chiapas are being joined by Guatemalans fleeing the Civil War." According to the linked article, that war finished in 1996 - 14 years ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.152.232.143 (talk) 03:52, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

EZLN

THe statement that Marcos was the spokeperson for the EZLN "since he could speak many indigenous languages and had been a successful organizer for the EZLN for years" needs to be sourced. I have spent a lot of time researching the EZLN for my thesis and this is the first place I have seen it. My guess is that it is another bit of Marcos folk lore that exists on the net. I'm deleting it for now unless someone can source it. Dklangen 18:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


Subcommandante Marcos is not the leader of the EZLN and never has been. He could be regarded as a leader, but more than anything, he is a spokesperson. (I think I'm right in saying this; the book of his writings, Our Word is Our Weapon, states it.) -- Tzartzam

Is there a reference for this "Federal Zapatista State of Chiapas" stuff? I've never heard of that, and i can't seem to find anything about it. I know that the EZLN is attempting to set up autonomous municipalities, but i don't know about this federal state idea. -- Doviende 09:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)


Tone of Article

Many parts of this article read like political propaganda. Make particular note of the demograpic section, which makes numerous political pronouncements with the same sources. I'm not up for an edit war, so I won't be making any changes, but I thought I'd put this out there for discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.244.10.221 (talk) 00:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

sections on alcohol and rituals inappropriate for this article and for wikipedia

First, college anthropology papers and encyclopedia articles generally have different purposes, audiences, and styles, so copy/pasting from one to the other is seldom effective. Second, these particular two papers lack context, are non-neutral, and are not particularly relevant to Wikipedia in general. Third, they deal with subjects *far* too specific to belong on the page about Chiapas. The second (if it didn't rely wholly on Vogt’s uninformed book from the 70’s, and actually gave a complete treatment of the subject), would belong at some sub-page of Zinacantán, while the first has some parts which could be worked into various articles, but almost none of which belongs on this page.

The parts about the Zapatistas and Marcos are far too long for the general page about Chiapas, and should be NPOV-ized, and slimmed down. But that is a less obvious or urgent task than removing these other two sections.

Also, “murals” as a top-level section? Gimme a break.

Cheers! jacobolus (t) 21:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I’ve done a quick clean-up job, mostly chopping out superfluity, tedium, & POV passages, & then rewriting blatantly ungrammatical sentences. The prose is now less bad, but it is a bit choppy in many places, and still needs some work. The article in general could use significant expansion, but I don’t have time to write much more now. —jacobolus (t) 19:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Add link

Should the Chiapas Media Project be included in the "Social development policies" section? Molibdeno (talk) 04:03, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

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