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METALLICA's LARS ULRICH: I Would Like To Make Another Album With RICK RUBIN - July 11, 2009 Italy's Rock TV conducted an interview with METALLICA drummer Lars Ulrich when the band played Milan on June 22, 2009. Watch the chat in two parts below.

Regarding METALLICA's future plans, Ulrich said, "Right now the only plan in METALLICA is we're more or less trying to survive this tour. We've got another 14 months — we're going out through August 2010. It's difficult for me to think about another record, so there are no plans. But the experience with [producer] Rick Rubin [who worked on 2008's 'Death Magnetic'] was a very positive one that I'm pretty sure that we're going to make another record with Rick; I would like to make another record with Rick at some point."

METALLICA filmed its July 7, 2009 concert in Nimes, France for an upcoming DVD release, but the catch is that the disc will be available only in France and through METALLICA's official website, Since it's a French product, you'll also need an all-region DVD player in order to watch it in North America. The DVD will arrive on October 19. METALLICA also documented its three recent shows in Mexico City for DVD, although that looks like it will be released in Latin America only.

The French concert is available to view for free at from July 10 through July 13 to anyone in the world who registers at the site.

METALLICA will be touring Europe through early August. The band starts a North American trek on September 14 in Nashville as it continues supporting 2008's "Death Magnetic" album.

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posted by : Diatribes
7/11/2009 1:55:30 PM
In my very humble opinion Rick Rubin's production is ONLY good for bands that need NO production because their sound is based in the "rawness" and very organic sounds. It worked for RATM, Danzig and Red Hot Chili peppers because they are basically that, they always sound raw and like "live". Despite Corey Taylor's complaints, it also might work for a chaotic and not very "clean" sounding band like Slipknot.

However Metallica, in my opinion, used to have the advantage of sounding BETTER than everyone else. Heavy and at the same time CLEAN and EXTREMELY measured and controlled.

"Rawness" and the "live feel" doesn't work for Metallica. It works for Slayer, they are that sort of band, but it doesn't work for Metallica.

If Death Magnetic had the sound The Black Album has it would be CRUSHING and one hundred times heavier, besides sounding better.

COMMENT | shakes head
posted by : josh1982fla
7/11/2009 2:09:46 PM
they should do the next album with Andy Sneap

posted by : tempsoundsolutions
7/11/2009 2:15:31 PM
whats up with the region-only dvd releases? you DO have fans in other parts of the world..

COMMENT | Rawness live feel
posted by : workingman52070
7/11/2009 2:16:24 PM
If I recall back in the early 80s the live feel was metallica.I remember the master of puppets tour being pretty raw.Metallica built there reputation and fan base by touring.The radio wouldn't play them until the black album.I think the black album is over produced and very commercial.Bob Rock is a fine producer for bands like motley crue.I hope the hit single days are over for metallica,thats not what they were about. Damned if you do and damned if you dont,I think death magnetic is much more interesting then black,load,reload,and st anger.(despite the clipping)

posted by : bhoss
7/11/2009 2:16:37 PM
Yea the guitars from pre digital pro tools crap sounded so much better and heavier. I love the way they sounded on Master of Puppets. I hate the way they sound now. The guitars just sound so ruff. It seemed to me also that there was no real effort in the vocals as well. Like lets just take a couple takes and thats good enough. Death Magnetic would have been so much better in another producers hand. I wish they would give Flemming Rasmussen another chance to produce another album. He produced 3 of Metallica's best albums. Done a wonderful job and of course Bob Rock perfected the Black album. The other albums Bob done were produced wonderful as well (except St Anger) Metallica get Flemming back on next album. Rick Rubin in my opinion did not do a good job on Death Magnetic!!!

posted by : bhoss
7/11/2009 2:19:07 PM
I seen Andy Sneap's name above. I love the way he produces. I realy like the sound of the new song from Megadeth (Head Crusher) The guitars sound realy good on that song.

COMMENT | good one bhoss.
posted by : soundscape
7/11/2009 2:30:11 PM
Head Crusher was recorded in Pro Tools.
so quote: "pre digital pro tools crap sounded so much better and heavier." is contradictory.

so sick of hearing the "digital ruined it" and "analog rules" argument.

if the songs are good then none of it matters. i hate to bring up a cliche but beatles recorded on a 4 track and in many cases THEIR guitar sounds were crap.

bring back Flemming Raz and that still won't solve all Metallica's problems but maybe we'll get to enjoy some pre-black production regardless of the poor song writing.

posted by : bhoss
7/11/2009 2:37:20 PM
yes you are right about the digital verses analog fight. It does seem to me though with Metallica anyways the earlier albums guitars sounded way better then they do now.

Andy Sneap somehow has maybe perfeted pro-tools because I dig the sound he puts out. Didnt mean to start a pro-tools vs analog thingy just stating the sound difference between the older albums vs new with Metallica.

posted by : hohoho
7/11/2009 2:39:10 PM
Rubin is a hack.

COMMENT | rick rubin is a spacker
posted by : Heinous Anus
7/11/2009 2:40:43 PM
not one of my favorite producers.

posted by : Mordack-
7/11/2009 2:42:58 PM
Good interview

posted by : Heinous Anus
7/11/2009 2:43:14 PM
Bring Flem Raz back. And hurry.

COMMENT | the new album will sound like poo
posted by : Firewind
7/11/2009 2:47:14 PM
If its clip magnetic TWO!

posted by : jvm138
7/11/2009 2:51:02 PM
Ozzy is speaking about his lawsuit against Tony Iommi!! GO SEE:

COMMENT | give me a break
posted by : longsincedark
7/11/2009 2:52:10 PM
Rick doesn't do shit but show up a few times a month to give his opinion and then he disappears again. He doesn't setup the gear, mic the instruments, record, mix, or shit. I think an album recording on analog tape sounds a lot better than 100% pro-tools. The tape saturation allows for more peaks without clipping than digital.

To the dude who said the Beatles sounded like shit it was fucking 40 years ago a lot of things were a factor to their sound and that being technology. There are better mics, recording consoles, gear, and a overall better knowledge of recording than back in the 60's obviously. That is a pretty sad comparision.

I think it is possible to make a good sounding record on Pro Tools just as easy as it is to make a shite sounding record. The big issue is brick wall compression and the "loudness wars". Taking a song and over compressing it to the point of digital distortion and dynamic loss is what sounds like shit.

Most producers do not use 100% digital approach a lot of the preamps, compressors, etc. have tubes in them. They may not use analog tape any more (who can blame them in most cases as it is A. hard to come by and B. hard to work with) but there is still some analog in the chain somewhere in most studios.

The key to good sound is too know what the fuck you are doing in every step of the process and especially in the mixing and mastering. A poor mix or master sounds like shit no matter if it is digital or analog.

COMMENT | next record???
posted by : sander140
7/11/2009 3:06:46 PM
IF Metallica will survive to go into making another new album...
I hope they will focus entirely on writing instead of the "who's who" of metal production. I would like to see them go back into the dungeon with a clean board and only the 4 guys that is Metallica actually writing and arranging everything. And THEN start wondering which producer (if any) would fit the best.
Just my thoughts on this...

posted by : rah
7/11/2009 3:10:19 PM
Rick has done a great job producing, he got the band out of their comfort zone and got them to put some actual effort into their material; before he stepped in they were on track to making an album full of "OH YEAH! GOOD TIMES CHOICE!"

The mix is horribly clipped, though, yeah. Andy Sneap would be nice as an engineer and mixer, though he has a tendency to make every album he produces sound the same and has no real ear for dynamics.

COMMENT | jason suecof
posted by : karma2burn
7/11/2009 3:35:37 PM
jason suecof is the man they need, someone who can help them make a raw metal album

posted by : as i am
7/11/2009 3:36:36 PM
I think Steve Wilson should produce the next album. His work on Blackwater Park was amazing.

COMMENT | Andy Sneap!!
posted by : AtomKey
7/11/2009 3:39:40 PM
Would be a great choice for the next album! Rick brought in the first four Metallica albums and said sound like this. It wasn't natural they did it because they knew they had to. Death Magnetic was a good album but they can do better. There are parts on the Cd that if you listen well sound just like some parts on And Justice For All. Rick knew what they needed to get back to and that was great but they need someone to be honest. They need someone to say, don't go back to anything just be heavy and be natural with it. All the guys in the Metallica need sit together and write a badass heavy album and then worry about the producer. Don't make searching for a producing a big part of the process. It is part of it but its not everything, writing the music and getting the songs tight is whats important.

posted by : The Unlord of Scumdale
7/11/2009 3:58:04 PM
Andy Sneap does make very good, very clear sounding and extremely polished productions, but every album by him sounds exactly the same. Stop bumming him!

COMMENT | Flemming...
posted by : The Return of Adam West
7/11/2009 4:00:14 PM
didn't "produce" anything, he had ZERO to do with the musical aspect of Metallica. The demos sound exactly the same as the record, except for sound quality. The first outside guy who had something to do with the musical aspect of Metallica was Bob Rock, and now of course, Rick Rubin.

So people asking for a Razz record are basically asking for a self produced record with a nice sound, which I'm all for., hehehehe... but listening to Death Magnetic demos, I think Rubin did a pretty nice job. And Bob Rock did a great job too, for that matter. I think he failed with St. Anger in the sense that he shoul've talked Ulrich out of making an unpolished-no-guitar-solos record, simply because Metallica was not the White Stripes or any of those pitchfork media bands. But I think Ulrich being a business man, had to be in sync with the times.



posted by : frontmanford
7/11/2009 4:04:24 PM

COMMENT | I agree
posted by : mcman71
7/11/2009 4:16:31 PM
Metallica should just do the next record themselves. That is, if they do another one. Personally, I think that there is nothing more than Metallica can say to us any more. I'm happy with Death Magnetic, even the clipping, and feel this is a good record to call it a career on. Do the odd cash in tour, this or that festival and let the new music alone.

COMMENT | Metallica = Gods
posted by : RiotAct666
7/11/2009 4:16:57 PM
DM was a killer album produced by Rick Rubin. Hope he is @ the helm for the next one. After all he is the same guy who did all those Slayer albums. Including Reign In Blood.

posted by : RiotAct666
7/11/2009 4:17:45 PM
posted by : as i am
7/11/2009 3:36:36 PM

I think Steve Wilson should produce the next album. His work on Blackwater Park was amazing.


posted by : Ballzworth
7/11/2009 4:22:08 PM
ha ha ha ha ha. WHAT?????? Another album with Rubin?? Lars really is crazy. Why don't they just try for something that sounds at least partially professional. Any kid off the street could do that better than Rubin did with Magnetic.

COMMENT | Diatribes
posted by : Dee67
7/11/2009 4:27:41 PM
I agree with you TOTALLY.

Couldn't have worded it better myself.

posted by : trevil
7/11/2009 4:34:50 PM
the demo death magnetic was better than the actual cd, same with the st.anger ripped those songs from the bonus dvd it has better sound and more live feeling.

COMMENT | Re: Andy Sneap
posted by : Firewind
7/11/2009 4:35:10 PM
Andy Sneap would be nice as an engineer and mixer, though he has a tendency to make every album he produces sound the same and has no real ear for dynamics.


Agreed bro, but he was among the first to bash the clipping on DM at least as far as big names..

I liked some of his older productions, the Blaze albums for example, etc.

posted by : Thurteen
7/11/2009 4:37:08 PM
Atleast on the drum production side of things.

The Drums on Gojiras last album sounded killer.

Ricks a great producer by he has no business in the metal genre.

posted by : Br0n
7/11/2009 4:39:39 PM
agree with Diatribes...gone is the "Metallicrunch" of yesteryear...the guitars sounded thin..a lot of one note palm mutes instead of palm muting the whole chord...shitty production when you consider the guitar sounds of old,

posted by : Firefly
7/11/2009 5:13:23 PM
I like the music on Death Magnetic but Rick Rubin did a horrible job producing it. I can't see how they would consider him again.

With the exception of St. Anger Bob Rock did a nice job with Metallica producton wise.

Flemming Rasmussen captured Mettallica's sound with Ride The Lightning and Master of Puppets...flawless work. IMO just like Bob Rock I think he fucked up a little with the Justice album...still better than their last two releases no question.

Bring back Flemming no doubt.

posted by : Firefly
7/11/2009 5:16:37 PM
And yes I realize Metallica did most of the producing when Flemming was involved. The bottom line is they make a good team.

posted by : Eckstatic
7/11/2009 5:48:32 PM
Metallica CDs have always sounded pretty shitty. You can play Death Magnetic and compare its production to the new Job for a Cowboy or pretty much any extreme metal CD and the difference is laughable. These guys need to get someone who CAN mix and master music without making it sound like the inner rim of an anus.

COMMENT | Digital Distortion
posted by : MuseumOfFear
7/11/2009 6:29:20 PM
There is NO digital clipping or distortion on Death Magnetic. If you've ever recorded digitally and hit +1, you know that sound. It's complete static, and is louder than the signal. They used some sort of analog device to squash the mix, I'm guessing.

On another note, anybody heard the WorMee stream? Not their finest hour. All Nightmare Long is very sloppy, and it's not even Lars' fault! The rhythm God himself, James is off!!

posted by : rufus_creampie
7/11/2009 6:29:52 PM
Billy Anderson. That's a wet dream.

COMMENT | Did anyone listen to the Nimes performance?
posted by : KentHiltz
7/11/2009 6:34:54 PM
I got through Blackened and had to quit listening to it. Even if they did release the DVD in the USA I wouldn't buy it. They skipped most of the guitar solo and Kirk can't even play the damned thing anymore. Lars' skills on drums sound poor, the guitar tone is better suited for a ZZ Top show than a METALlica show, and James' vocals are PISS FUCKING POOR. Where the hell is the raging beast of a band that I used to know that prided themselves on how good they are? Right now I think they are just riding out the name without giving any effort to their skillsets. Fuck this poor ass shit. Get off your fucking asses and relearn how to fucking play. Start watching the old Live Shit videos to remind yourselves of how good you USED to be live. I don't think I'll ever care to see them live again. I just get let down anymore.

COMMENT | For the next one...
posted by : Mr 666
7/11/2009 7:30:29 PM
Andy Sneap, Colin Richardson or Neil Kernon.

COMMENT | My gripes...
posted by : MrChrisASchrader
7/11/2009 7:53:38 PM
Working in this type of business is the fact people think Rick Rubin, Andy Sneap, Bob Rock or any of these producers people want to name drop around here have any say in the written product that becomes the music sounds.

Rick Rubin or any given producer can say this or that doesn't sound right and the bands that chose them to work with can go with what's said or completely disregard it.

I can't speak for Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer or Iron Maiden but I can guarantee that those bands didn't get where they are from having luck with whomever produced the material but luck with then pens they used to write the music we enjoy.

posted by : big popi 69
7/11/2009 8:52:18 PM
im gonna throw in zeuss to do the next record. all his records sound massive good guy great young producer

posted by : SandmanZepp
7/11/2009 9:05:17 PM
they should let Rubin produce it and have Bob Rock mix it....Rock was good at that...the black album sounds amazing after all these years

posted by : EL PENDEJO
7/11/2009 9:16:05 PM

COMMENT | RE:give me a break
posted by : SiouxDude
7/11/2009 10:30:46 PM
The fact is we weren't present for any of the sessions to know exactly how things got recorded. They could've record aspects of the record onto tape then dumped it into the digital realm for editing for all we know. The debate of analog vs. digital will rage on with no clear winner. Like posted before, regardless of technology, one can easily make a bad sounding recording. In both cases, the trick is how to make the best sounding recording with the situation given.

We also don't truly know what Rick's involvement was with the record. Yes, there are quotes from the band saying he was hardly around. However, I take them with a grain of salt as producers wear many different hats and tailor their service according to what the client needs. I would love to know more about what he did do with the band for them to *produce* the best songs possible.

Yes, I'm a RR fanboy. He hasn't produced a bad record yet.

COMMENT | whoever they use...
posted by : pistonslap
7/12/2009 12:22:22 AM
hopefully not rubin but whoever they use please make the guitar on the next record sound metal and not grunge rock like on DM. also the annoying clipping needs to go. DM would've been so much more enjoyable if it weren't for these 2 things.

posted by : houseofGod
7/12/2009 12:28:11 AM
Another pile of fucking SHIT from Metallica!
Last album i bought was the Black and i only played it 3 times!

I gave up on them a loooooooong time ago.I will just remember the good days with Metallica(the early 80s kicked ass)..Cliff em all motherfuckers!
I will stick with real metal bands,screw them all!

COMMENT | Diatribes
posted by : master_of_insanity
7/12/2009 1:18:46 AM
i agreed up intul the comment about the black album..people hail as it being the end all tallica album

yeah its good but not that good...

all these little fucking kids whos first album by metallica they heard was the black album think theres nothing else....

posted by : as i am
7/12/2009 1:55:40 AM
posted by : RiotAct666
7/11/2009 4:17:45 PM


You're kidding right?

COMMENT | More proof Lars is retarded
posted by : Send Me All Your Drugs
7/12/2009 3:09:24 AM
Worst production of all time, not even kidding.

COMMENT | The horse is dead, stop whipping it!
posted by : BassInYerFace
7/12/2009 3:37:19 AM
I love how all of these production experts have crawled out of the woodwork to critisize Death Magnetic's sound. Enough already! When anyone of you releases an album that sounds better then you can talk...

I'm gonna piss some of you off when I say this, but I think their best sounding effort was "The $5.98 E.P.:Garage Days"!!!

What I'm pissed about is the "regional release" DVD's. W.T.F.?!?!?! & then if you do get your hands on one you have to buy a new DVD player just to watch it? Total B.S.! Lars & co. have once again forgotten about the fans.

Also, I'm pretty disappointed that they're not planning on even thinking about a new album until Aug. 2010, and seeing as how it takes them 4-5 years to make an album now it'll be 2014 or 15 before we hear anything new. What a bummer.

COMMENT | i've heard some good names mentioned....
posted by : #1metalhead
7/12/2009 6:32:25 AM
about producers.can you imagine what 'tallica would sound like with some of the guys other posters have listed.i think it would be cool to use andy sneap or even flemming again,someone talked about bob rock mixing the disc-that would be very cool.bob's the best at getting the wall of sound through two speakers or how ever many you have,i prefer listing to music through two though.anyway one can dream about getting that classic metallica back again right?

posted by : sander140
7/12/2009 8:31:40 AM
namedropping ...
Metallica will not ever make another good album. EVER.
RR tried getting them back to the old feel of MOP & AJFA ...
what is that about?? They are dead and gone!

"Oh, I think they sholud use Andy Sneap.."

"No no, Flemming Rasmussen!"

... and seriously - Colin Richardson???!!! Do you think Metallica will ever want to sound like a cheap death metal production??

Now all we have is the sad left-overs of "used-to-be-Metallica".
I hope they will not write new material until Lars starts practicing, and concerns himself about playing drums, instead of just hitting them...

sry for wasting your time - C**T

COMMENT | Actuatlly, Yes Colin Richardson
posted by : ProlificProcreator
7/12/2009 9:43:39 AM
I can't say I've listened to much that he has produced, but I like what he did for Overkill's Killbox 13. He helped them get a different sound. I espcially liked the guitar sound, but the album as a whole sounds great.

COMMENT | Come on guys
posted by : Red Rum
7/12/2009 9:49:04 AM
Why hasn't anyone mention the simplest name in production?

Brendan O'fukin Brian?

Listen to his absolutely crushing work on Mastodon! By the way, what someone said about Tallica working alone and then producer steping in to complete the work, that's absolutely true.

COMMENT | Diatribes
posted by : Tama Duder
7/12/2009 10:18:36 AM
everyone who agrees with Diatribes' opinion should check out the MODERUS REMIX of wont regret it.

COMMENT | ^^^^ Diatribes
posted by : MODULATOR
7/12/2009 12:59:14 PM
I also agree with your opinion!

And yes, Moderus did good job on "Dead Magnetic" remix!

COMMENT | moderus
posted by : pigchop
7/12/2009 3:16:19 PM
Perhaps the band ought to hire on Moderus as producer of the next record?

COMMENT | moderus was good
posted by : longsincedark
7/12/2009 3:44:41 PM
but I prefer my remaster over it... Darksound remaster that is :) sorry I am biased but Moderus is a great guy with a great ear I just did not have the time or patience to work with those stems or whatever they were called... after spending a lot of time working on the remaster I was ready to hear some other band's album.

COMMENT | Diatribes
posted by : kingnothing23
7/12/2009 8:15:03 PM

Well put.

COMMENT | get Mutt Lange
posted by : Billy Oxygen
7/13/2009 1:19:17 PM
Just kidding, don't lynch me. Started listening to these guys at the beginning. I felt the pinnacle of their sound was the black album production. Can't stand the sound of any music they've put out since. Just my taste.

posted by : Scotts_Orange_Juice
7/14/2009 1:15:29 AM
How 'bout a Rubin Sandwich?

yuk yuk

COMMENT | Wha???
posted by : Scotts_Orange_Juice
7/14/2009 1:16:30 AM
you mean they want anti-studio Rubin back???

COMMENT | longsincedark
posted by : grynch1
7/14/2009 2:11:22 PM
Great post.

posted by : grynch1
7/14/2009 2:12:32 PM
Nearly 1 year after it's release - I still just can't believe how bad DM sounds. Boggles the mind that they released 2 such horribly produced albums in a row.

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