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Music Industry: Universal's Legal Tangles With YouTube Kill Official Nine Inch Nails Fan Remix Site

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Universal's Legal Tangles With YouTube Kill Official Nine Inch Nails Fan Remix Site

If you picked up Nine Inch Nails'Year Zero remix album, 1337-ly titled Y34RZ3r0r3m1x3d, you probably noticed the second disc "halo 25 data," containing the multitrack master files for every song from Year Zero. Some of them had already been posted online not long after its initial release, and that experiment's success led to the full-blown version. It's obviously meant to spur fan remixes, with the last piece in the puzzle being an official site to organize and distribute them all. Thanks to Universal's legal wrangling with YouTube, it's not going to happen. Update: Trent's hosting the remix site himself. From nin.com, "Sometimes you just have to say... 'fuck it.' The remix site is UP! Have fun."

The gist of all the suits against YouTube is that, because it doesn't pro-actively take down or automatically block copyrighted content, it effectively doesn't fall under the DMCA's safe harbor provisions. If Universal, Trent's former record label, hosts a site where a fan pulls a Danger Mouse with Year Zero and Prince's 1999, which Universal doesn't own, they think they'll be opening themselves to the same blasts they're pelting YouTube with. Then their lawsuit would be in jeopardy, and you can't have that.

Trent's thoughts:

While I am profoundly perturbed with this stance as content owners continue to stifle all innovation in the face of the digital revolution, it is consistent with what they have done in the past. So... we are challenged at the last second to find a way of bringing this idea to life without getting splashed by the urine as these media companies piss all over each other's feet. We have a cool and innovative site ready to launch but we're currently scratching our heads as to how to proceed.
Do I really have to emphasize here how hard it sucks someone trying to change the game is being roadblocked by legal squabbles over a content/copyright model that's in drastic need of revision? Also, loophole ideas anyone? [Nine Inch Nails]
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8:00 PM ON MON NOV 26 2007
BY MATT BUCHANAN
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COPYRIGHT, DIGITAL DOWNLOADS, DMCA, GADGETS, HOME ENTERTAINMENT, MUSIC INDUSTRY, NIN, NINE INCH NAILS, PORTABLE MEDIA, RIAA, UNIVERSAL, YOUTUBE

Subscribe BY IAMNOTDRTRAN AT 11/26/07 08:22 PM

Universal = lame

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BY JERRT AT 11/26/07 08:33 PM

if there is one thing i know about the nine inch nails fan base, is they will make this work. keep fighting the good fight trent. if you don't, i'm afraid no one will.

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BY CANADRIAN AT 11/26/07 08:35 PM

Launch a satellite into space with your web server on it, and host your innovative site in the last wild frontier. Outside of any country's jurisdiction, tell the media companies to go suck a toad.

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BY PHATSAC AT 11/26/07 08:36 PM

Trent = The man

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BY MIKERM19 AT 11/26/07 09:00 PM

WAIT! You mean.. all this legal action bullcrap that these idiot companies are doing actually HURTS what they think they are protecting!? SAY IT AINT SO!

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BY CAPTAIN ANGRY AT 11/26/07 09:05 PM

Partner with ThePirateBay or have someone launch the site anyway and collect donations for the lawsuits, providing the public to fight the media giants head on.

Nothing will change if we don't fight for it.

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BY KAISER-MACHEAD AT 11/26/07 10:42 PM

Stupidity is a virulent disease, and it seems that the pathology of the disease can be traced back to Universal.

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BY LIZARD_KING AT 11/26/07 11:25 PM

Trent supplying those tracks is one of the coolest things i've seen from a musician recently. Love him or hate him, it's the equivelent of handing out source code; it's just not done in the music industry.

Unfortunatly, we all know that is the record industry dies, new music will cease to exist, new artists will not emerge, new albums will only be put out by dead artists and all the stations will be classic rock within twenty years. The record company saves us from that by bringing us the new music.

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BY SPAZTRICK AT 11/27/07 01:18 AM

@phatsac: But I though we were supposed to be fighting "the man."

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BY DIEM AT 11/27/07 01:43 AM

couldn't you just host the files in a country other than the US or a place where Universal doesn't have a presence?

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BY JOHNNYABNORMAL AT 11/27/07 02:42 AM

I saw a nice NIN vid the other day:

[www.youtube.com]

Although I've never been a big fan of his music, he has a huge pair of balls compared to most recording artists who only seem to be in it for ego & $$$$.

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BY SPOCK11384 AT 11/27/07 04:35 AM

I have a hunch no matter where you host the site, Univeral will find a reason to have it shut down. Like Lizard_King said, it really is the equivalent of releasing source code, and that makes me hot. Trent could pull a Prince and re-release the album with a legally different identity under his own label.
Short of that, I'm with the fan supported lawsuits.
Also, this really needs media attention. Perhaps bugging your legislators and media outlets would help.

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BY HANZO AT 11/27/07 04:42 AM

The site is now live,

[remix.nin.com]

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BY MILKTRUCKHEIST AT 11/27/07 11:48 AM

@lizard_king:
are you serious? Have you ever heard of a local music scene? Most new bands aren't started by record labels, just browse around MySpace for a while and check out a lot of new stuff (take the good with the bad) that some of the big record companies won't touch.

p.s. I really can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not haha

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BY CONGLOMERATE AT 11/27/07 12:28 PM

i've never been into nin, but i too enjoy trent's doings.

also, the remix album is pretty good.

trent reznor is good people.

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